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Paicey talks about his most recent collaboration, which proved to be quite controversial. So here it is — all your questions answered: why, how, how much, et cetera.



34 Comments to “Reaction to your reaction”:

  1. 1
    Denis CUSUMANO says:

    taking every chance to get fun !
    you are right , i beleive the same
    thanks for having a chance to get fun

  2. 2
    Blackwood Richmore says:

    Fair enough!. No worries… 😉

    https://youtu.be/8eXj97stbG8

  3. 3
    uwe hornung says:

    What have we come to in terms of silo thinking that someone with the pedigree of the one and only Ian Paice has to defend himself for drumming on a Hip-Hop record?!

    How ignorant of musical history can one be? African tribal drums started it all, we owe a huge debt to them. Without them there would have been no blues, no rock, no Deep Purple and no rap or Hip-Hop.

    And if you have only noticed now that Ian can be funky, perhaps you should listen to Burn, Stormbringer, Come Taste The Band and Malice in Wonderland anew with open ears.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6NsaJJgGOI

    Re one-drop, in case you wondered: The reggae emphasis is on the 3 of each four beats, not on 2 and 4 as in rock or on 1 and 3 as in most funk. It feels a bit like a syncopated heartbeat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9EFSiUXyYg

    There is no rule book on earth that prevents you from liking Bob Marley, Deep Purple and Hip-Hop/Funk.

    And if you want to hear Child in Time with a one-drop drum track look no further than 24:33 here, it escapes me what’s not to like about it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgdJA0yjU70

  4. 4
    Blackwood Richmore says:

    This video about your favourite snake isn’t half bad!…

    https://youtu.be/6hAN5K8_FOk

    👁️👁️ 📽️

  5. 5
    MacGregor says:

    Interesting comment regarding Reggae music. Cheers.

  6. 6
    MacGregor says:

    For the record Uwe, Ian Paice chose to comment, he didn’t have to, it was his choice & I was certainly surprised that he did. Cheers.

  7. 7
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Any criticism of him for this is preposterous. He bought it, he learned it und he can bloody well not only boot, but also play it where, with whom and how he wants to. For money or for free.

    Part of the Purple Family’s magic is the diversity. I find that attractive. If I didn’t, AC/DC, Motörhead and the Ramones would be my favorite bands. They have that timeless equation down pat: one song good + all the songs the same = all songs good!

    And freedom of musical choice aside, I really like the drum track on the DMX song. Very Hush’y. And beyond what either Cozy Powell or John Bonham could have done btw, they were both simply not nimble enough for a groove like that.

  8. 8
    DeepOz says:

    I found it rather bizarre that Ian decided to defend his position and playing on this DMX track. I listened to part of the DMX track, didn’t like it, not my style, not my pleasure, moved on and listened to something else.

  9. 9
    Jim Corrigan says:

    Well, Ian obvious felt he needed to explain things, and I would suggest it is due to many untactful, vile comments by some faceless people hiding behind a keyboard and social media nom-de-plume, who would not have the guts to own up who they really are, let alone tell the man their thoughts in person; but maybe even be the person to ask for a free ticket or a backstage pass. I’ve met some of these. Always shook my head at how hypocritical some, “Fans” can be. As most of you have agreed here, Ian owes NO ONE an explanation, and any insinuation by anyone that he needed the money, is none of their bloody business, and downright damn rude. Get a life!! He was having a bit of fun, and trying to keep his chops up during these very strange times. Why some people have to always make a mountain out of a mole hill, boggles my mind (And probably Ian’s, as well)! 🙁

  10. 10
    George Martin says:

    Listening to Ian speak about anything it almost seems like it’s impossible to ever get mad or upset with him. He’s such a cool easy going guy, I’ve met him many times and he’s always so nice. I don’t care what he plays as long as he keeps playing.

  11. 11
    MacGregor says:

    @ 7 – Oh how woefully predictable to bring in other big name drummers, the same two drummers, as always. Now that is hilarious as I was only telling a friend yesterday in regards to this, that that would more than likely occur here from a certain individual. Sad for you Uwe. Just remember to never ever judge or criticise other musicians, music & the like as you often have done & no doubt will continue to when it suits you. Now how do we remove that halo from your head? Dream on dreamer! Cheers.

  12. 12
    MacGregor says:

    The first thing I thought of when this story first appeared was, Ian Paice playing rap, my how things have changed. We can say things at certain times in life that we may regret, or maybe don’t regret, it happens & it is the way it is.
    I don’t have an issue with it as we also can change our minds over time, it is all ok & amusing. He is on film from the 1993 Come Hell or High Water video interviews, saying in regards to the future of music, live music in Europe & particularly Britain, ‘it’s all rave parties, rap crap’ etc. Something like that. You have to have a laugh. Cheers.

  13. 13
    Rob Sinclair says:

    Great to see you playing outside of your genre. Fantastic. Down with the Naysayers

  14. 14
    Adel Faragalla says:

    How come people didn’t slauter Ian Gillan for singing with Pavarotti.
    Ian Paice didn’t do anything wrong and he doesn’t has to justify anything he did at all.
    People need to do something better with their time rather than picking on someonr for playing drums for a living.

  15. 15
    Blackwood Richmore says:

    Hi Nick, I think this could be a great post. It’s a Soldier of Fortune cover that stands out for obvious reasons.

    https://youtu.be/bQ0c66V9gMU

    🥰

  16. 16
    Kidpurple says:

    Who Cares? Saw Purple in Va Beach a couple of years ago. They lost power- amazing Ian saved the day with a solo!
    Awesome!

  17. 17
    Nick Soveiko says:

    Blackwood @15:
    it’s a nice cover okay, but what do you think makes it stand out of literally dozens other soldier of fortune covers on youtube?

  18. 18
    Blackwood Richmore says:

    @17 Nick, I thought that cover was different enough because, they play it like a traditional folk song, as though it was from their own history. It feels fresh & somehow sad, a lament. Remember the treatment DC gave to Sail Away on the Purple Album? It was as different to it’s original as that was.
    There were no guitars, no male voices. There was a slight operatic thing going on with some of the vocals part way through the song. The piano & accordion were entirely effective. It was strongly emotional & convincing. It didn’t sound like a bog standard copy of a DP song, just like all the others… They made that song their own.
    It was classy… IMHO !… & apart from the DP original, I haven’t encountered another cover like it so far on the internet.
    Cheers Nick! 😇 💟

  19. 19
    Uwe Hornung says:

    @11 Ah, Wing Commander McGregor, I will forever be your Heinkel 111 and you’re my Spitfire, use me for target practice, I beg you!

    For the record: Bonham was possibly the best drummer for Led Zep if you like his style (I don’t), but nimble he wasn’t. Nor did he ever claim to be.

    Hey, I have friends in high places who agree with me!!! : – )

    https://youtu.be/NQePSwNkvbA

    https://youtu.be/CTJywZoG_bw

    But since you’re such a weepy Zep floozy, let me rephrase: What Little Ian does on that much derided Hip Hop track is beyond the skills of many drummers, some very famous ones included. Interestingly, very few people comment on his actual musical contribution to the track. It’s rap so it must be crap (that rhymed).

    But I would never doubt that Bonham – dragging behind the beat as he did – would have made a great Reggae drummer. He gave it a good shot with D’yer Mak’er.

  20. 20
    Uwe Hornung says:

    @15 I really like the Hellenic Schwermut und Weltschmerz (ha, look those up!) in it. The accordion is priceless. A lot of women doing SoF come out sounding too sweet, radio moderators who visit charity soccer games to watch veterans of the Allendale Nursing Home come to mind, but I would not want to compare, would I?

    Purple and Greece, what’s not to like?

    https://youtu.be/B_purxqH_Nk

  21. 21
    MacGregor says:

    @ 19 – a weepy Zep floozy, ha ha, I like that one. To be honest I never think of other drummers in that sense, whether they could play some feel & style & others that may not, as they all do what they do. I don’t have a problem with Paice playing whatever he plays, the same as the others. I did not last long enough to hear Howe’s contribution though, I just cannot stand rap at all. Looking back at my music collection from my memory & I hear Paul Simon doing that vocal style on one or two of his earlier songs. We were not familiar with the term rap back then & it’s impending influence on modern music. However an arrow was shot across the bow of rock music in 1991, when Rush performed their own little piece in the song Roll the Bones. At least it was them performing it I suppose. When Tony Iommi had Ice T guesting on vocal on that terrible Sabbath Forbidden album song Illusion of Power, the walls of civilisation began to shake indeed. Ha ha! Not to worry & I can see why some people don’t like rap & comment, it isn’t really any different to commenting on a song, album, concert, production, mixing etc etc. Cheers.

  22. 22
    Jeogger Matthews says:

    You don’t have to “justify” anything you do Master Paice…!
    We love you and everything you do!

  23. 23
    Blackwood Richmore says:

    @21 MacGregor, this one’s for you, I hope you like it!.

    https://youtu.be/AaUHA88DuFE.
    🎸🥁 🥃

  24. 24
    Blackwood Richmore says:

    @20 Uwe, it’s just another day on the Grecian street of broken dreams…

    https://youtu.be/R_B8e7r3gT8

  25. 25
    MacGregor says:

    @ 23 – Sir Blackwood, thanks, a fine guitarist he is. I had a read of his bio & he did an album with Carl Palmer in 1980. I have never heard of him before, see what good things rap can do for us? I will have to change my attitude! Cheers.

  26. 26
    Uwe Hornung says:

    @24 Blackwoody, it just goes to show that Herr Turner has a remarkable AOR voice, he can shift effortlessly between Jon Bon Jovi and Lou Gramm type vocals. For everything else there is to say about him, he is a good singer.

    And re the rap/Hip-Hop vs. “true rock” culture war that seems to have re-erupted on these hallowed pages, didn’t that already end some 35 years ago with an astonishingly happy communion???

    https://youtu.be/4B_UYYPb-Gk

    And I won’t even add Limp Bizkit und Linkin Park vids …

    Also, I think it is somewhat ironic that the professed fans of a singer who throughout his career has also spoken/”rapped” over songs (to great effect), just think of Anyone’s Daughter, No One Came, Place in Line, No Laughing in Heaven, Disturbing the Priest, Born Again, Mitzi Dupree, Ted the Mechanic, MTV etc, lambast a whole genre here that is simply based on the anthropological realization that rhythmic speech is also a form of music ever since our ancestors chanted their thanks over dead mammoths they had successfully hunted.

    By the way, my favorite song in that vein of music that seems to rub so many people the wrong way here is not even of Yank origin:

    https://youtu.be/k3RzQ1b_c9w

    When I first heard/saw that on MTV, I was immediately mesmerized. I think it’s hypnotic to this day.

    Honorary mention of course:

    https://youtu.be/9Q6YJ-r5SQs

  27. 27
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Tsk, tsk, tsk, Herr MacGregor, what rock trivia gaps seem to bottomlessly loom here?! Nitzinger wrote songs for Bloodrock (remember them?), was around the time of his “Live Better Electrically” solo album peddled as a Ted Nugent contender (he is not as inane) and played in the early 80ies with Alice Cooper’s new-wavish Special Forces backing band (as a third lead guitarist along with Mike Pinera of Blues Image and Iron Butterfly fame and Alice mainstay Dick Wagner).

    https://youtu.be/du76qTdwhbk

    I saw him and Alice around that time at the Cobo Hall in Deeetroit (with the Joe Perry Project opening) promoting Zipper Catches Skin. Alice was at the height of his anorexic alcoholism (he had basically stopped eating and only drank calories in the form of alcohol) and looked like he’d die on stage any minute, only for real this time. He finally cleaned up after that tour, no doubt it saved his life.

  28. 28
    MacGregor says:

    @ 27 – yes indeed Mr Cooper was a one of a kind. I only ever liked his 70’s output but have always respected him, he is a smart guy. Interesting video clips & he & Bowie really did show up in similar ways in certain eras. The Thin White Dukes indeed. I don’t know Bloodrock at all but did look yesterday at some clips online. Nitzinger is a fine guitarist & seems to have decent respect among his peers. I might have a listen to that band PM with Carl Palmer on drums, if there is anything available that is, it seems to be a one off project from 1980. Cheers

  29. 29
    Uwe Hornung says:

    It was. Nitzinger never got off the ground with anything he did. That stint with Auntie Alice was as close to mainstream “fame” as he ever got.

  30. 30
    uwe hornung says:

    Just listen to Little Ian’s bass drum here, it’s sheer musicality. It says all why I personally think that he’s the real virtuoso in DP, above, yes, even Ritchie and Jon. I could listen to it all day. His bass drum work is majestic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJbJ8VbQE2E

  31. 31
    uwe hornung says:

    I stumbled across this by accident, has this been up here? Not just drumming, also very frank about his stroke and the medication he continues to use. And how Jon’s notice to the band (and then final departure) made him do more PR for DP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s00NAa85o5c

  32. 32
    Nick Soveiko says:

    uwe @31:
    great interview indeed, and we had posted it https://www.thehighwaystar.com/news/2020/10/12/big-band-rocknroll/

  33. 33
    Sleepy Cat says:

    There’s more to reggae than just the one-drop beat. Take the steppers, rockers, that I’m sure Ian could play in perfect interaction with the guitar skank and organ bubbling. By the way, Ian sounds like he’s looking for forgiveness. I love that DMW track, I wish Ian could do more of those out-of-the-comfort-zone collaborations.

  34. 34
    Uwe Hornung says:

    @Woke Cat: My opinion exactly! I’d love to hear him do something progish or jazz-rocky. He no doubt has the chops for it.

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