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Crazy train has left the station
As you have probably heard, Ozzy Osbourne has died on July 22, 2025, just a couple of weeks after his farewell show, and a week after his last public appearance. His splendid career had so many crossovers with the Purple family that we had to consult the experts to catch many of them besides the obvious. The obvious are Don Airey and Bob Daisley. The not-so-obvious include Bernie Torme, who stood in at a handful of shows after Randy Roads’ death, Whitesnake’s Rudy Sarzo & Tommy Aldridge, Lee Kerslake, who later played in Living Loud with Don Airey and Steve Morse, and Glenn Hughes, who claimed to have been involved in the early version of Blizzard of Oz (Ozzy himself denied that). Not to mention that Ozzy was replaced in Black Sabbath by Ronnie James Dio, who was succeeded by Ian Gillan, and eventually by Glenn Hughes.
Tributes to the Prince of Darkness have poured in from all walks of life — from Kermit the Frog to Pat Boone.
Here is a lovely anecdote shared by Don Airey:
Ozzy: the world without you is suddenly a little smaller and much quieter. Thanks for those wonderful years on tour in the 80s. I remember the first Rock in Rio Festival 1985 with you sat at the bar complaining of 15 years travelling the world and all you’d ever seen were gigs and hotels. So you and me took a taxi up to Christo Redemptor, the huge statue that overlooks the city and climbed the 200+ steps to the top, the view from which was absolutely astounding. That was until we looked down to the base of the statue and saw our tour manager and security frantically scurrying about. We were duly whisked away to a photo shoot on Ipanema beach, which involved you cavorting in the waves with 50 stuffed piranha fish. Next day, a gig in front of 350,000 people sharing a bill with Queen, Scorpions and Whitesnake.. As you used to say, not bad for a boy from Aston. Rest in peace old mate. Our deepest sympathies to Sharon and the family.
Don & Doris Airey
Ian Gillan’s tribute is short and sweet:
Dear Ozzy,
I can’t help smiling, even now.
You improved my life,Thanks mate.
ig
Blabbermouth has a quote from Bob Daisley:
This is a sad day and it has brought me to tears. When I reminisce about Ozzy’s and my times together, I think about the fun, the laughs and of course what we created together musically, which will live much longer than these mortal bodies that we inhabit.
My condolences to everyone who you’ve left behind, Ozzy. Nothing can change the true friendship that we once had; I’ll see you ‘on the other side’.
David Coverdale also chimed in:
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
My Sincere Condolences To Sharon, The Family, Friends & Fans…💔💔💔
[Update Jul 24] Ritchie BlacKmore sends a carrier pidgeon:
I had the good fortune to meet Ozzy a couple of times. He was a very humble man with no rock and roll attitude. I think he was very grateful to be doing what he loved. He had a melodic, warm and harmonious voice over hard rock tracks and it worked out incredibly well without having to resort to screaming over the music. A wonderful way of singing. The late 80s was my favourite period but that is just my opinion. His home show was my favorite. It reminded me of Faulty Towers. I make it a habit of trying not to smile and laugh very much but Ozzy made me crack up with laughter on his show every time I saw it. It was so honest. I think that’s what people loved about him.
Our hearts go out to Ozzys family. Candice and I share your grief. We have lost a brilliant singer, a great musician and a wonderful family man. Rest in peace Ozzy. #ozzy #rip #ozzyosbourne
Thanks to Doug, Tim, metaljim, and Trond for their wisdom.
Unauthorized copying, while sometimes necessary, is never as good as the real thing
I was lucky enough to see the first Ozzy show with Bernie Torme on guitar. I saw them a couple of weeks earlier with Randy and you all know what happened then. The show with Bernie was at Madison Square Garden and me being a hard core Gillan fan knew who he was but others were not so familiar with him. He only played about 6 or 8 shows then left but it was a great night. Both nights were great. Recently someone posted on you tube a 5 minute clip of Black Sabbath at the Convention Hall in Asbury Park in 1975. It’s rough but from the angle the person took it from if they only turned the camera on the crowd just once a little to the right that’s where I was. Man it really takes me back. Thank God we still have Deep Purple. May it continue for many years. Rest In Peace Ozzy, the world will miss you.
July 23rd, 2025 at 23:53Since George is one of those rare eye and ear witnesses, Ozzy with Bernie here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XNFarG7EI&list=RD67XNFarG7EI&start_radio=1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NINTCHDBPICT000476962392.jpg?w=1880
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NINTCHDBPICT000476961354.jpg?w=1880
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NINTCHDBPICT000476961345.jpg?w=1880
I never understood why he didn’t use the chance to stay with Ozzy, but left after seven gigs or so.
And that picture with the band taking a bow made me realize only now that Don and Bernie actually played together. It’s logical of course, Don was in Ozzy’s band when the flight accident happened and Bernie took over almost immediately, but I had never given it a thought.
Finally, a clip of Ozzy from the later Sabbath period I personally prefer, Dirty Women (no offense meant, Karin!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EBk3czZXlQ&list=RD6EBk3czZXlQ&start_radio=1
July 24th, 2025 at 00:39(That red Rickenbacker 4001 Geezer plays is incidentally the same instrument that Glenn played at California Jam and recorded Burn with. He first loaned it to Geezer for a tour and eventually sold it to him, Rickenbackers not really being Glenn’s preference though he tried to switch to one when joining DP.)
What a loss. Those first 6 albums with Black Sabbath and those first 6 on his solo group are outstanding. Listen to them all the time. I consider the first 3 ozzy solo albums essential hard rock masterpieces. He had a great band and great players throughout. Awesome that he lived long enough to have a final show. Loved it!!
July 24th, 2025 at 01:31I Would like to post this as a tribute to Ozzy. Ozzy will live forever.
July 24th, 2025 at 06:32https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm-M8GvgYws&list=RDhm-M8GvgYws&start_radio=1
Deep Purple & Black Sabbath are my 1A & 1B bands and now all that I have left is Purple. After seeing Back to the Beginning I really hope that Purple has a final performance with tributes from other bands, way even though memvers of Purple have said that they didn’t want to end that way. But the fans and the musicians that they influenced would love it. Sad that we lost Ozzy, but so grateful that he was able to do that final performance.
July 24th, 2025 at 06:45It’s interesting that Mr. Blackmore posts this rather long comment about OZZY, but hardly says a word about his immediate companions and fellow musicians of many years, such as Jon Lord, Cozy Powell or R.J. Dio.
LLRnR
LL Ritchie
-kraatzy-
July 24th, 2025 at 08:26I miss you OzzY
God bless you (all)! I love you.
✞
July 24th, 2025 at 08:38Ian Paice once described Black Sabbath music as ‘Brutal’ in an interview but Ozzy has managed to successfully make it fun brutal music and that’s what we loved about him. He never took himself seriously and took his fans to another level of excitement.
July 24th, 2025 at 08:42Also we need to appreciate what Sharon did for him to make him stand on his feet again in his darkest hour.
He ended it like a movie blockbuster on high with him and band mates and his fans saying farewell on stage.
His life is like the Greatest fun movie ever made with the best ending ever.
Thank you Ozzy for making great fun energetic music and making us smile.
Peace ✌️
I saw the original Black Sabbath line-up in the mid 70:s and it was great, I remember screaming for the song “Snowblind” and at the end of the show Ozzy finally sang the song.. it made my day.. next day in school though..I couldnt speak for all the screaming the night before.
July 24th, 2025 at 09:27RIP Ozzy!!
Ozzy RIP, i´m a fan of his singing and i like him very much
July 24th, 2025 at 09:53#6 kraatzy:
It could be a message written by Candice or together with her, or Lord’s disappearance was more difficult for him to explain and something more personal and intimate.
he dedicated a song to him which he then played live at his last Rainbow reunion.
July 24th, 2025 at 11:04RIP Ozzy.
I have seen Ozzy a couple of times, first with Black Sabbath, Oct 26, 1975 (holy cr*p, it’s 50 years now).
Unfortuanally I do not have a recording of this.
Then Copenhagen 16th January 1983 as special guest to Whitesnake.
Ozzy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p38YseP8JNk
Whitesnake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fng-r1V3wVw
(not my recordings though).
Janbl
July 24th, 2025 at 11:12@6 There is always some whitless person like you who breaks the mood of a tribute thread like to make a ridiculous, brain-dead comment. Ritchie gave a very emotional and loving tribute upon Jon Lord’s passing, and even did a recorded instrumental in memory of him. Get a life.
July 24th, 2025 at 11:23#8: “Ian Paice once described Black Sabbath music as ‘Brutal’ in an interview”
hm, “brutal”? the vocals of Ian Gillan are at his Solo-Band (Gillan) and at “Born Again” much more “brutal” than Ozzys vocals, in my opinion. But both were “fun-brutal”…
Ritchie is right but is a little rascal when he writes: “He (Ozzy) had a melodic, warm and harmonious voice over hard rock tracks and it worked out incredibly well without having to resort to screaming over the music. A wonderful way of singing.” That could be a covered reference to Gillan’s screams…
July 24th, 2025 at 11:30@10…..Well said Gerd.
July 24th, 2025 at 11:52@2
“..the later Sabbath period I personally prefer, Dirty Women (no offense meant, Karin!”
– ohh none taken Uwe! I also prefer Dirty Men 😄 (if there isn’t a song named that, then there ought to be one!
Are you also disliking the year where Ian made BS so much better?
I thought everybody loved that album, but at FaceBook a very kind gentleman told me that he did not regard Born Again at all as a BS album!
And I answered: well that’s the same for me: those awful years where Ian wasn’t the vocalist of Purple, I don’t recognise these albums either.
And then he just laughed at me Uwe 😟
July 24th, 2025 at 12:42That’s a lovely tribute to Ozzy, Pier.
Rest assured, Adel, that Sharon after an appropriate period of grieving will guide the release of a biopic about her late husband. It could potentially be a great movie.
July 24th, 2025 at 14:02Ozzy in my opinion was also the best rock ballad singer. Look at all these great songs
Changes
July 24th, 2025 at 16:32Goodbye to Romance
Tonight
So tired
Shot in the dark
Mama I’m coming home
If I close my eyes forever
Dreamer
@9: I saw Sabbath at the Hammersmith Odeon in 1978. Yes, it was a hell of a show.
@5: Nice idea, but I doubt it would work without Jon and Ritchie.
@6: Ritchie did write a song to honor Jon. He seemed moved to me.
July 24th, 2025 at 20:29Not to take away from this discussion about Ozzy… but apparently George Kooymans passed away on the 22nd as well. He was the the guitar player for my next favorite band after DP, Golden Earring.
Here’s to George: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUuPwvV5ZtI
July 24th, 2025 at 22:08Loved Ozzy with Sabbath. His solo stuff I don’t care . Kudos to Sharon to boost his status and kept him at top throughout the years. His persona and antics are larger than life. RIP!!
July 24th, 2025 at 22:12I don’t post a lot here, although I read most of what’s put on here, lovely community!
Just wanted to share some memories of Oz, being such a strong character throughout my life as a guy who loves hard rock, it’s very sad to see him go. My first encounter with hardrock was an older member on the outskirts of my family that played “Made In Japan” to me.. I was about 8 years old and was immediately hooked, next was similar bands. My older brother soon after bought a Black Sabbath album, to my memory it must have been “Paranoid” with the sword on the cover. I remember being very scared to listen to it at the time. Then the melodies kind of stick with you and that was his strength. I was of course a big fan after that.
In december 1983, on the Bark At The Moon tour I was (with some record company people) with the band at the Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden. Jake’s wife was very pregnant and looked like she was about to give birth at the very same day…Anyway, off to Oz, we sat down with him for a few hours and talked about everything – life- tours – whatever, very nice and fun chat. Ozzy had Irish Coffee after Irish Coffee but was still alright. Then Sharon came and said she would leave in the morning to go to Germany to prepare for the Rockpalast gig which I suppose you’ve all seen. Ozzy just got very upset and – Sharon don’t leave me..started crying and so on… But she was very nice to us and made her excuses, a short while later a couple of guys (security guys perhaps) had to carry him up to his room, the Irish Coffes finally gave way… A first sort of tragicomical meeting (to say the least) with a hero of mine. Anyway, Oz was and will continue to be a legend in the hardrock world, together with Lemmy, and especially Jon Lord and Eddie Van Halen!
July 24th, 2025 at 22:39Piranha fish can’t survive in sea water, they are a river species, but what’s this with Glenn having somehow played a role in a fledgling Blizzard of Oz? I’ve never heard of that nor could I find anything. I wouldn’t rule it out due to the Birmingham music Mafia connection and whether Ozzy remembered it is pretty much irrelevant because lots of things happened that he did not remember (and he remembered lots of others different from how they had happened!), but where did that come up, Nick?
Re the Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio I have my own story to tell. During the latish 90s I was there for an international arbitration and I had befriended a guy from the client’s legal department. Robert was from Switzerland and Jewish and very observant at that, he even had a Jewish tailor in Zurich who removed the cotton threads from his woolen business suits and replaced them with wool thread, something only the most observant Jews do because it is prescribed by their belief to not wear a mix of animal and plant origin textiles. But Robert was also a loose mouth, he would say things on arrival in Frankfurt by train like “As a member of the chosen people, traveling on German trains through Europe is always a primal experience for me, but somewhat stressful even if they are much more comfortable these days.” 😑
Anyway, while in Rio, one evening we decided to take a look at the statue up close, we took a taxi and Robert overcame his security concerns about traveling at night through the Favela neighborhoods you need to cross to get there. Then we were finally at the statue and at night, all lit up, yeah it does look hugely impressive. And as we stood there, I couldn’t help but deadpan into the silence: “Look Robert, if you are having an epiphany, I would volunteer to sacrifice a part of my water bottle and administer a baptism of you right here, right now, all you have to do is fall to your knees – as a Catholic it is well within my ambit to do so!>/i>” And of course we both cracked up laughing though Robert refrained to take up this one-time-opportunity at conversion. 🤣
July 25th, 2025 at 00:16Russ, Golden Earring are giants from a very small country and I always thought George was a handsome man, a tasteful guitarist, able songwriter and fine singer. He’s on lead vocals here (Barry Hay on second guitar and backing vocals though generally the lead vocalist of GE):
https://youtu.be/0dDSCPa6azY
George had been suffering from ALS for a long time, that is one crap hereditary disease and not a good way to go. Eight miles high now …
https://youtu.be/OgpNhSAr2wQ
July 25th, 2025 at 00:33@19 – Russ775, thanks for the George Kooymans tribute. A wonderful song and the band Golden Earring were great. My Dutch lady friend just told me about all the concerts she attended back in Holland throughout the 1970s. I use to own quite a few vinyl albums of theirs, including then rather commercial Cut album. All the other albums were from th glorious 70’s, Moontan is a classic. I need to get that on cd. May George rest in Peace, a wonderful musician. Cheers.
July 25th, 2025 at 02:01A lovely tribute from Grumpy Rick to Ozzy. Cheers.
https://www.loudersound.com/bands-artists/he-was-actually-much-cleverer-than-people-gave-him-credit-for-rick-wakeman-pays-heartfelt-tribute-to-his-late-pal-ozzy-osbourne
July 25th, 2025 at 03:56@15
“Dirty Men 😄 (if there isn’t a song named that, then there ought to be one!”
Yeah, someone should write a song about Uwe (and me too).
July 25th, 2025 at 06:14@ 12
Dear (not) respected Mr. Gammell. Ridiculousness and brainlessness are obviously your exact attitude, otherwise you wouldn’t have posted such a response. This demonstrates a certain disrespect towards me on your part, which 100% has NO place here. I’ve always understood this whole thing to mean that everyone is allowed to express their thoughts or opinions on certain topics without being insulted stupidly.
Mutual respect and class are character traits that a man may or may not have.
Do you know the difference between NIVEA (-craem) and NIVEAU??
Regarding the topic itself: Ritchie did exactly that immediately after Jon Lord’s passing. Later—you’re right—he naturally paid him his respects. But when it came to R.J.Dio or Cozy Powell, less, if at all.
That’s the way it is!!!
LLRnR
LL Ritchei Blackmore
kraatzy
July 25th, 2025 at 08:30I’m gonna ruff a few feathers with what I am about to post, but az Ozzy often said: “Go f*cking crazy for me” and I will obey.
His career meant a lot to me, bringing plenty of fantastic music. Especially solo period. I liked MK1 Sabbath, but rather selectively. I was more marvelling in non-obvious choices and the further they were from debut, seeking and experimenting more – the more I liked it. I never had a problem with the fact that Tony Iommi decided to carry on without him, because hiring Ronnie James Dio had some great effects and lasting impact on Sabbath machine.
It’s beyond me how anyone can say that they don’t care for Ozzy’s solo output. There’s no life on the planet without Blizzard of Ozz. As much as I love Ritchie Blackmore and I am a freak for his playing and penchant for improvisation both with melody and noise – I put Randy Rhoads above him on the list of my Top 5 musicians. Rhoads was an icon completely outside the rivalry circle of Blackmore Vs Hendrix Vs Van Halen etc. His brilliance of mixing classical with raw unfiltered power echoing Mick Ronson puts him for me on the position of the Mozart of our times, outside the circle of all others. “Mr Crowley”, “Crazy Train”, “Tonight” with the mountain majesty of grandeur off-the-wall solos, and the epic scope of “Diary of a Madman” with the choir and orchestra are the milestones of rock and will be as such treasured forever. And there was plenty to follow after. To have on hand Jake E. Lee and Zakk Wylde as the continuing axemen… Who has this much of sheer guitar talent on display, ever? Very few. Up to “No More Tears”, thanks to Bob Daisley’s friendship and involvement, Ozzy put out 4 more excellent records bearing some of the finest songs on my playlists.
One more thing needs pointing out. I don’t think that the witch of Arden needs our prayers, really. That woman might be substantial in keeping Ozzy going and focused for decades before the decay – but the ways in which she screwed over the musicians who created Blizzard of Ozz and built it’s excellence, while her hubby was lying underneath the table drunk – is the dirtiest affair of this showbusiness. And while Randy Rhoads and Lee Kerslake can’t defend their rights anymore, Bob is the last one of the living Blizzard members who was royally screwed by the person in question. Until she fully resolves it for Bob and opens the vaults with Randy’s recordings, I’m not going to send there any sympathy. She could have been an angel and carer for Ozzy, but from the business and moral point of view the way Ozzy’s bandmates were treated instrumentally, undersevedly as they were pivotal in making a proper vehicle for Osbourne. An evil is an evil, wrongdoing is a wrongdoing. The deadly snake snuck into a bamboo stick – is still a snake that will strike and kill.
Ozzy though deserves a great big bow and thank you for producing big chunk of the greatest soundtrack of my life. Thank you, Prince of Dose and Darkness, may you raise some hell up there in heaven, with Randy again maybe. Rest easy.
July 25th, 2025 at 13:42What makes you think, I dislike Sabbath, Karin? I really like them, it’s just that I prefer everything from Master of Reality to Never Say Die to the formative first two albums which have their charm but are hardly refined music. The rest of the world seems to think it exactly the other way around.
Ozzy is for me a singer who sang like a child, there is innocence and even naiveté in his voice that made him one of a kind. His abilities of vocal expression were extremely limited, but as Glenn Hughes once said: To copy his monotone wail (with equal emphasis on every word and note – listen to what Ian Gillan or Robert Plant do with their vocal melodies and words in comparison) is the hardest thing.
Of course Born Again is a Black Sabbath album, coincidentally also one of the greatest non-Purple albums Ian has graced with his voice. Pivotal for the development of Grunge in my view. Anybody who thinks that Ian sang on Born Again like he did on, say, Machine Head, (thereby turning Sabbath into Purple) has his ears plugged and should see a rock’n’roll doctor. I’m generally not in the “without such-and-such band x doesn’t sound to me like they did anymore so I never listen to them again”. Come Taste The Band is for me a legitimate DP album because I can connect the dots to In Rock even if Ian Gillan or Roger Glover perhaps can’t because they are emotionally too involved to give it a fair listen.
I’m not such a great fan of Sabbath with Dio because there is something left field and unorthodox to Ozzy’s approach to music that was lost in the Dio era, but it was still well enough made music. But yeah, I prefer the children from the grave before they became somehow lost at sea. There was something industrial and working class about Ozzy era Sabbath where Dio era Sabbath is more of a lavish illustration from a Tolkien book – you know my love for fantasy nonsense.
Finally, I don’t believe that taking a measuring tape to see which obituary comment is longer is really conducive evidence for what the departed meant to the writer. OTOH, had I been Ritchie, David or Glenn, I would have likely made the trip over the Atlantic to the Saint Mary the Virgin Churchyard in Hambleden to bid Jon a last goodbye (unless Jon’s wife or daughters had indicated they didn’t want to see me there). But then I have always enjoyed the “beginning of healing” ritual a good funeral constitutes and most people regard that as a little morbid from my side. Who knows, maybe they were there and we weren’t told about it. The way Rick Parfitt’s three blond ex-wives all showed up at his funeral and stood together like the witches from Macbeth 😂 (plus Quo bandmates from all line-ups) was kind of moving and classy to me.
PS: Kraatzy’s and James’ little spat should perhaps abide for now – calling each other wit- or brainless in an obituary thread is a lamentable choice, Ozzy isn’t even under the ground yet and we all know how much he liked the peace sign.
https://images.app.goo.gl/UAagq
Get in the spirit.
July 25th, 2025 at 14:16“Yeah, someone should write a song about Uwe (and me too).“
Wot? I am to the support and upkeep of general decorum here what Sir Lancelot was to the protection of the honor of innocent maidens!
A vigilante of decency.
https://images.app.goo.gl/rxzd4
That said, Karin’s unprompted revelation that she likes dirty men, has cast me into deep confusion and even despair, what have we done, Russ?
July 25th, 2025 at 18:39Speaking of tributes by the Wakeman family …
https://youtu.be/rFihH5Ypm5s
July 25th, 2025 at 19:09Ozzy used to be my hero. Then I stopped following his music circa 2003 after Down to Earth, when it became too sludgy. I also resented his re-recording of the classic albums to deny Bob and Lee their royalties. But I fondly remember his Sabbath and solo albums, attending a Sabbath reunion show and reading all those stories about drinking, killing doves and bats etc. RIP Madman.
July 25th, 2025 at 19:11@28
July 25th, 2025 at 20:55Are you all right, my friend?
Everyone loves Ozzy!
July 25th, 2025 at 23:03kraatzy @ 6 – since when is it deemed to be not paying respect when it isn’t in the public domain? Just because someone doesn’t jump online and waffle on in a certain way, does NOT mean they are being disrespectful or they don’t give a damn. I do remember Ritchie paying respect to both Cozy and Ronnie when they both passed. Cozy’s passing was before the internet wasn’t it, or just when it was getting going. I read his comment in a rock music magazine somewhere. Ronnie’s was online and he also did pay his respects to Jon Lord with a musical piece. The other fact I notice is that Ritchie has been lured into the social media crap much more in recent years. Back in the day, not so much if ever at all. Perhaps it is also because he has more time on his hands these days. Cheers.
July 25th, 2025 at 23:09#31
“That said, Karin’s unprompted revelation that she likes dirty men, has cast me into deep confusion and even despair, what have we done, Russ?”
– you have done nothing wrong 😄
It was meant in the name of gender equality!
July 26th, 2025 at 04:44@30
“What makes you think, I dislike Sabbath, Karin?”
– well, sometimes you read my comments like another who shall remain nameless reads the Bible!
I did not said you dislike BS, merely just the marvellous Born Again album, where Ian, as you so nicely put it: “ Of course Born Again is a Black Sabbath album, coincidentally also one of the greatest non-Purple albums Ian has graced with his voice.” – indeed graced with his voice 🤩
No it was that guy at fb who didn’t thought at all Born Again was anything worth because og Ian’s gracing ☺️😉
And thank you for the way you described OO’s voice:
“Ozzy is for me a singer who sang like a child, there is innocence and even naiveté in his voice that made him one of a kind.”
That helped me to understand his voice and I see now why I couldn’t reconnect at first 🙏🏼
Rick Parfitt had 3 blonde wifes! Woah, no surprise he had to consolidate himself with some tranquillers 😄
July 26th, 2025 at 05:00@29- Thorsun. Good points and the only exception being is that I don’t like Ozzy’s post Bark at the Moon material, each to their own there. Randy Rhoads along with Bob Daisley was a grand team indeed. So many superb songs on both of those albums. The most creative Ozzy albums by a mile to my ears. @30- Uwe, get real old son. If Jon Lord was farewelled at a private funeral, ( I certainly hope he was) that is the best outcome don’t you think? Having half of LA turning up, are you serious. Those guys appearing would have been a disaster. In regard to comparing Dio era Sabbath to the 70’s Sabbath. oh dear. They are two totally different beasts. That is where you miss the point. Why do I get the feeling that certain artists you don’t enjoy have rarely been listened to by yourself. Anyway, the lyrics getting in the way says it all. You make out (again) that Dio only writes about your pet hate. That in itself shows that you haven’t paid too much attention. Cheers.
July 26th, 2025 at 05:35@31
“what have we done, Russ?”
Well Uwe, in the course of my life I’ve turned more than a few good girls into bad ones and it looks like its happened again. Someone as pure and angelic as Karin cannot be corrupted by just one man. I am grateful for your help in doing this as I could not have accomplished this monumental task alone.
July 26th, 2025 at 06:03@24 & 25
Thanks guys… It’s good to know that there are a few non-Dutch people out there besides me that recognize how good Golden Earring were; especially live. I have yet to find one other American (other than people in the music industry) that knows anymore about them other than Radar Love & Twilight Zone. It didn’t help that they kinda gave up on the good ol’ USA after their video for When The Lady Smiles got banned by MTV. They were the real deal.
July 26th, 2025 at 06:17@30
“Ozzy is for me a singer who sang like a child, there is innocence and even naiveté in his voice that made him one of a kind.”
A vehement yes to that. And nowhere is that more apparent than in his ballads.
July 26th, 2025 at 06:58@ 40 – “Someone as pure and angelic as Karin cannot be corrupted by just one man. I am grateful for your help in doing this as I could not have accomplished this monumental task alone.”
July 26th, 2025 at 09:54sheesh, but what about me, I don’t even get a ‘additional’ helper’ credit. Uwe gets all the credit (it does help to have that Teutonic connection to Denmark). However for me, all the work I have done attempting to bedazzle Karin, breaking down her spells and also taking huge risks of incurring her wrath, has all come to nothing. I am starting to feel like Anton, left out of the picture, woe is me. Oh well, I had better get back to that drawing board again. Cheers
@36 MacGregor
I meant disrespect towards me, whether public or not – it’s not appropriate!!! … So you’re just Nivea (-Cream). Too bad for you.
LLRnR
LLRitchie Blackmore
Kraatzy
July 26th, 2025 at 13:26Ozzy Osbourne was the original singer with Black Sabbath, that’s a fact. My opinion is that he was not the greatest singer with Sabbath by a long chalk. The band literally came back alive as a professional and musical entity after his departure and Dio’s arrival. In my opinion, Heaven and Hell and The Mob Rules vastly transcend what came before. Ozzy’s character and persona endeared him to millions of fans even though much of his dubious behaviour would be roundly and rightly condemned by today’s standards . His popularity has now been acknowledged worldwide in the outpouring of tributes following his death. I’m happy to see this even for a singer I never ever rated. He is one of the rock family after all. But don’t let this permanently overshadow the greater contributions of Iommi, Butler and the superb contributions of Bill Ward. The major influence of Dio, Appice, Gillan, Gillen and others. The biographies of Black Sabbath I have seen since Ozzy’s death conveniently airbrush out huge chunks of the Sabbath /story after he was fired. Sharon will no doubt be delighted. The real fans may have a different view. I will await the backlash.
July 26th, 2025 at 14:33Objection, Your Tassie Honour, I know Dio’s work inside and out and listen to fantasy nonsense-free Elf all the time (a band criminally ignored here where everyone mistakenly seems to think that Ronnie’s first proper record was the Rainbow debut). I can’t have more than one or two of his solo albums missing and of course I have all the Sabbath albums with him. I saw him with Rainbow (2x), Sabbath (1x, original Heaven & Hell Tour), Heaven & Hell (1x), Purple Concerto (2x) and at least half a dozen times with DIO (original line-up and later ones) including seeing him gesticulate with a toy sword with some Geisterbahn kiddie ride dragon on stage, an unquestionable nadir in the history of age-appropriate rock entertainment.
Of course Dio era Sabbath were a different kettle of dragons, but you have to forgive me that I preferred Geezer Butler’s more thought-inspiring lyrics to Dio’s fantasy narrations drenched in metaphorical clichés …
In the misty morning, on the edge of time
We’ve lost the rising sun, a final sign
As the misty morning rolls away to die
Reaching for the stars, we blind the sky
🙄🤯🙄 r-u-b-b-i-s-h
Where have they hidden my ping-pong outfit? 😂
Admittedly, I still like Egypt (The Chains Are On) though, Last In Line was his best solo work me thinks.
https://youtu.be/iJil3H_lRPs
There they are again, <die heiligen Frösche hüpfend auf dem Weg zum Tempel des Schicksals … 🏛️🐸🐸🐸🏛️
July 26th, 2025 at 15:32For our gossip girl Karin, Rick P’s three Macbeth witches … 😎
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/composite-status-quov2.jpg?w=1280&quality=44
July 26th, 2025 at 16:02So many legends lost this year
July 26th, 2025 at 17:07Ozzy
Brian Wilson
Mick Ralphs
Rick Derringer (super underrated guitar god)
A guitar player with fingertips chopped off, a singer with no voice. What is rock and roll if not this. Chapeau. Fantastic, and eternal gratitude.
July 26th, 2025 at 18:37@ 28 Janbl
Thank you – yes – I am fine … I dont like guys like… who are not disrespectful… everone can have his own impressions and resulting opinions that are to be accepted by everyone, even if this does not represent their own opinion. Hence the reference to the comparison between Niveau and Nivea (cream).
Bottom line = You either have respect or you don’t !!!
LLRnR
LL Ritchie Blackmore
kraatzy
July 26th, 2025 at 18:45What’s wrong with NIVEA all of the sudden?
https://youtu.be/NXgnQ4za8Zw
I had to get this old to finally realize that the English pronunciation ist not like the German one, we say knee-vay-uh, jawoll!
I have fond memories of the product from my first fledgling autoerotic attempts during early adolescence before I eventually got a grip on a more sophisticated technique to help me do without it. We all learn as we go along, don’t we?
July 26th, 2025 at 20:05@ 46 – poor Uwe, he not understand. Cheers.
July 26th, 2025 at 23:02@ 44 – I am talking about obituaries, memorials and tributes only. Nothing more, nothing less. People can pay their respects in many different ways. Cheers.
July 26th, 2025 at 23:06Kraatzy is kinda kra
July 26th, 2025 at 23:08atzybürstig today … 🙄Had I not read these comments, I’d not have known George Kooymans also passed away. The Golden Earring quartet — occasionally augmented — remained active for half a century. That has to be a record. They had fleeting worldwide success twice during that span, but deserved better. Great band. Underrated. Wish I’d been able to see them live. Barry Hay sang lead most of the time, but Kooymans, a tasteful, underrated guitarist and songwriter, sang some of their most memorable tunes. Here’s one of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KrBFF5SsIM&list=RD_KrBFF5SsIM&start_radio=1
I’m a fan of Sabbath through the Gillan year and of Ozzy’s early “solo” career. I think his smartest career move was going by Ozzy instead of John. He became a brand. Don’t think his solo career would’ve taken off if he’d gone by John, despite his personality and the quality of the music.
RIP George and Ozzy.
By the way, if Ritchie is in fact taking a shot at Gillan while eulogizing Ozzy, that’s bad form. Not the forum for it.
July 27th, 2025 at 00:28@43
There there MacGregor 😄
Remember plenty of coffee when you’re back at the drawing board ☺️😉
July 27th, 2025 at 01:37@47
Thanks 🙏🏼
They don’t even look intimidating 😄
July 27th, 2025 at 01:39@43
“… but what about me, I don’t even get a ‘additional’ helper’ credit.”
Yes, you should have been acknowledged for you efforts in contributing to the moral demise of our beloved Karin. Rest assured that I feel the appropriate amount of remorse for neglecting to include you in my initial post. I shall atone for this with several hours of flagellation while repeatedly listening to this ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ ) and then send myself to bed without any supper.
July 27th, 2025 at 07:02@ Uwe …
By the way, today not … but not often 🙂
I like your posts…
LLRnR
LL Ritchie Blackmore
kraatzy
July 27th, 2025 at 11:48@51
“What’s wrong with NIVEA all of the sudden?”
– there is NOTHING wrong with Nivea!
If I may be allowed to share a life hack here: if your hair is longer (a bit longer than yours Uwe ☺️) and you live in a period of the year or an area where the climate is very dry, it is a BRILLIANT idea to take a very VERY small amount of the good old Nivea crème (the one from the round blue tub) smear it thoroughly in your hands and GENTLY put it in the lengths of your hair! It gives moisture (why is moisture a hated word Uwe? I find it fits very well) and a little shine! But don’t use too much or you need to wash your hair again, like immediately!
And to the rest of your post: WHAT! 😳
No no, don’t explain! As René always says: if I don’t understand it it’s probably not for my ears and eyes anyway….
July 27th, 2025 at 11:57@58
There there Russ, I guess you can relax and instead of listening to the Allman Bros, try this one, it’s very soothing:
https://youtu.be/ZTICqyxKIlk?si=HTShCPaTXcIhcdz9
July 27th, 2025 at 12:03“By the way, if Ritchie is in fact taking a shot at Gillan while eulogizing Ozzy, that’s bad form. Not the forum for it.“
I admittedly read it that way too, but didn’t want to start another Ritchie vs. Ian discussion here. If he did, then it is another sign of Ritchie’s conveniently short memory as he ousted Rod Evans at the time for not being able to scream and hired Ian for the exact opposite in an effort to get some Robert Plant helium vocals into DP. And years later, Dio got the boot for not having the screaming falsetto voice which Ritchie deemed necessary to climb the charts in the US.
Ritchie has also lauded Axl Rose as a singer again and again, deeming his voice as very commercially suitable and the key to GnR’s success, so any criticism of “screaming” singers in the aftermath rings a bit hollow. Just because Candice doesn’t in her vocal style.
It is also fair to say that Ozzy with his well-known pitching issues live wouldn’t have lasted long in either DP or Rainbow. Blackmore likes accurate singers.
July 27th, 2025 at 15:37@41 & 55 – yes George Kooymans was a major talent. As guitarist, singer and songwriter.
As were the entire band – great drumming and bass playing from Cesar and Rinus, and soulful howling from Barry.
His passing is a sad loss. What a huge body of impressive work he left though.
Every GE album from 1969 to 1982 contains plenty of good songs. My fave era their “proggy” phase, “Switch” and “To The Hilt”.
After some sterile, contaminated-by-drum-machines records in the mid-and-late 80s, they came back strong with “Bloody Buccaneers” in 1991, and from there maintained a high standard of quality until the very end. Their “Complete Studio Recordings” box is well worth the price, especially since it contains tons of singles-only tracks, many of which make their only CD appearance. (Though it isn’t actually “complete”, missing a handful of tracks which are available elsewhere. )
Fans who turned out after the 1970s or 80s might be impressed with some of the band’s later work, eg. from 2003:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rer0HQ80Es
My favorite Jojo vocal moments were when the band used his sweeter-sounding voice in contrast with Barry’s harder-rocking sound, eg. “She Flies On Strange Wings”
July 27th, 2025 at 16:52https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW-Ys53hcIg
Ozzy, Dio, Gillan, Plant, Rob—they’re all equally incredibly talented singers who have provided me with priceless enjoyment for decades. I’m grateful and full of admiration for all five, and there’s no point in separating them. They’re all equally worthy hard rock vocal gods for me. All the others may not be bad either, but these five are the cream of the crop.
July 27th, 2025 at 19:44And Glenn is a god, too, but at another planet (Funk-Soul).
@58 – thanks Russ, I slept really well after reading your comment. Anything to keep Karin on her toes is fine by me. I do enjoy that Allman Brothers song, Duane in all his glory. Whipping Post, although whether it is pleasure or pain is the conundrum. It apparently is a fine line between pleasure and pain. Not that I would know, perhaps a few here could enlighten me? Particularly that German chap here who visits the St. Pauli Hamburg area frequently would know. Cheers.
July 27th, 2025 at 22:57“They don’t even look intimidating …”
Most widows have that relaxed-relieved look to them after a while.
July 27th, 2025 at 23:06“sheesh, but what about me, I don’t even get a ‘additional’ helper’ credit.”
As a drummer you should be used to that. Let’s not get carried away.
July 27th, 2025 at 23:09@ 67 – oh how very droll Uwe. Bass players, just what are we going to do with them? It took you a few days to get onto that comment of mine, losing your touch in your elder years perhaps? Cheers
July 28th, 2025 at 07:53I never liked Plant’s sexist chicken voice
July 28th, 2025 at 12:47With Ozzy currently reclimbing German charts even with the ole chestnut Paranoid
https://www.metal-hammer.de/ozzy-osbourne-streams-steigen-um-982-prozent-2436071/
and our discussion of German Schlagermusik elsewhere, I thought I’d leave this here:
https://youtu.be/MwnFX0_H-rA
So now we know what Paranoid with a Hammond would have sounded like even if sung by Cindy & Bert! 😂
No need to thank me Tillythemax, I’ll do anything to further your education.
July 28th, 2025 at 13:42How about Children of the Grave with a Hammond?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Moy8p4hplk
July 28th, 2025 at 13:54I of course continuously monitor anything you do, Herr MacGregor, and it is eventually processed via my gleaming circuits … 😎
https://youtu.be/UMJF37BVGTA
But I’m feeling magnanimous today, the eventual (but always ultimately unavoidable) corruption of Karin V was of course a joint venture between your
goodbad self, Russ’ incessant corrosive burrowing (how an occupation can shape a man …), Max’ dark and insidious flirtations (who – I have this from trusted sources – will never casually comment on a woman’s maturity again … 😱) and only marginally yours truly. I only ever had good things in mind for Karin, but my best intentions and actions were largely misconstrued.https://youtu.be/WrMGGouem3c
July 28th, 2025 at 14:10Now that is an unusual number for the Southerners to cover, très nice!
July 28th, 2025 at 14:15@69
“I never liked Plant’s sexist chicken voice”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
July 28th, 2025 at 15:37@72
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ohhh my!
All of you are indeed funny! 😄
And very nice try to link Elvis!
I admit I always listen to all the links you produce, also Suspicious Minds, and I wonder how it would sound if a real singer like Ian sang that 😂
(For the record: EP sang it very nice, but again and again I have to state for generations to come: no one in the whole wide world can sing remotely as dramatic, energetic and beautiful as Ian Gillan!) (period!) (I mean: Full Stop)!
And just to make his clear:
I am not corrupted! The innocent remark I made of ‘dirty men’ was a comment to yours ‘dirty women’ (with some band…) and in the name of gender equality! Nothing less, nothing more ☺️
July 28th, 2025 at 15:52AndreA, my main issue with Percy was that I almost never could make out what he was singing (i.e. hearing the words, not understanding their meaning), especially when he sang real high and a bit faster. I don’t know how this is for native speakers – what do they have to say here on the subject? -, but IG’s, DC’s and Ozzy’s sung words were and are much easier to decipher if English is only your second language.
But then, conceptually, I think that Robert Plant saw his voice more as another melody instrument within LZ than as a transporter of lyrics.
Jimmy Page’s less than crisp production of LZ records – the price he paid giving those albums that mystic aura – might also have something to do with it, but thinking about it I’m not any good at hearing the words Percy sings on his solo records ether.
July 28th, 2025 at 16:25@ 76- that is Middle Earth language Uwe that Percy was singing. I would have thought you had worked that out by now, he he he. Cheers
July 28th, 2025 at 22:20@ 75 – “(For the record: EP sang it very nice.” It is starting to happen folks, it will be a momentous occasion too, a huge celebration of wonderment and joy. Karin’s continual journey into the world of male tenor vocalists. Or even baritone vocalists. Stay tuned folks. Oh my coffee tastes extra nice this morning. Cheers.
July 28th, 2025 at 22:29Can’t you ever give a sensible answer, you mutated piece of convict island DNA?! 😂 Is Plant harder to understand for a native speaker or not?
July 28th, 2025 at 23:29@78
“It is starting to happen folks, it will be a momentous occasion too, a huge celebration of wonderment and joy. Karin’s continual journey into the world of male tenor vocalists. Or even baritone vocalists.”
– it is NOT happening MacGregor! And you used to be so friendly!??
Has Uwe corrupted you completely now 😂😂
“Stay tuned folks”
– DON’T! There is nothing to stay tuned for! I accept and respect that a lot of you gentlemen in here seem to appreciate Elvis Presley, and to show some courtesy I will not trash him every chance I get 😇
I still, and will always, prefer Ian Gillan (And Dan Baird, Liam Gallagher, Noel Gallagher, Chris Norman, Jesper Binzer, Jeff Lynne and Louis Armstrong!) over that bt!
“Oh my coffee tastes extra nice this morning”
– ohh I am so happy for you! Would really hate if your coffee tastes bitter 🤣
“Cheers“
July 29th, 2025 at 07:23– and skål right back at ya!
“The innocent remark I made of ‘dirty men’ was a comment to yours ‘dirty women’ (with some band…) and in the name of gender equality! Nothing less, nothing more …”
Now that is helpful life advice, Karin, danke, next time I’ll approach a woman I’ll casually ask Wanna get dirty? and if she reacts offended I can always retreat to I just meant that in support of gender equality! If only I had known this before …
Chatting up chicks done right! – an easy to understand and implement manual by Danish gender specialist Dr Karin Verndal. 😁
July 29th, 2025 at 14:21“Ozzy, Dio, Gillan, Plant, Rob” i wrote, should mean: Rob Halford not Plant, Robert…;-)
July 29th, 2025 at 15:13@81
You are such a lawyer some times, twisting and turning my words so even my dear mother, had she still been alive, wouldn’t recognise her own daughter in them!
Guess I leave you in your own world of misunderstandings 😄😄
July 29th, 2025 at 15:58We weren’t in doubt, Gerd, there is only one Rob …
https://youtu.be/RVoE3d3OYsM
Worship the Priest!
July 29th, 2025 at 22:07@ 79- “Can’t you ever give a sensible answer, you mutated piece of convict island DNA?! 😂 Is Plant harder to understand for a native speaker or not?” Ha ha ha ha. That is not a bad way to put it Uwe, our convict heritage, well for some of us. Regarding Percy’s lyrics, no, I have never had any trouble deciphering the words that we can understand. Although ‘come on come on come on, do it, do it, do it, give it to me right here on the floor’. They apparently did not use those sort of words in that way in Middle Earth. Cheers.
July 30th, 2025 at 00:57#76 “Jimmy Page’s less than crisp production of LZ records – the price he paid giving those albums that mystic aura – might also have something to do with it, but thinking about it I’m not any good at hearing the words Percy sings on his solo records ether.”
the only “crisp produced” LZ-Records where the first 2 LZ Albums and Houses Of The Holy (Eddie Kramer) and HOTHoly was too clean, so with Pysical Graffiti they produced a phantastic sound! The presence-album was in a very good normal rocksound, which today nobody knows to produce any more…
July 30th, 2025 at 10:41Ok, now this is cute, His Ozzness would be chuffed:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LizzHaNcqV8
July 31st, 2025 at 13:15Peter Criss was the original drummer with Kiss , and all the drummers who came after were better musicians than him.
July 31st, 2025 at 20:01The same situation with Ozzy And Sabbath here.
@87
Thanks… made my day.
July 31st, 2025 at 21:01Yet Peter had an inherent swing no other drummer in KISS after him had. He was their Ringo.
https://youtu.be/GUFuJQATLZA
I loved his easy-breezy style that was never really foundational, but flowed so well with early KISS. He played like a 60s pop drummer to their music. 😂
https://youtu.be/cciXL5tXTUg
Never mind that his chops and bass drum technique were extremely limited.
He was also their singer with the most natural voice! 😆 Between Paul’s affected über-dramatic falsetto, Gene’s mumble-grumble demonic bellow and Ace’s thin and nasal non-voice, Peter’s warm velvet tone really stood out.
July 31st, 2025 at 23:12One more!
https://youtu.be/M3ijMxUo_k8
August 1st, 2025 at 01:51@91
Classic… how did I miss that for all these years?
August 1st, 2025 at 06:40@ 88
August 2nd, 2025 at 11:49It’s a subjective matter; pasta carbonara is made with pork cheek, not bacon. Bill Ward is the only one real drummer of BS.
@91
August 2nd, 2025 at 16:38I remember it, I went to the concert in that toyr (there were not Wylde but another guitarist whosexname I don’t remember).
AndreA: Gus G aka Konstantinos Karamitroudis?
https://youtu.be/x_9G_0omFqE
August 2nd, 2025 at 20:12@95
Oh, yes, right!
But he didn’t make an impression on me, nothing like what I expected at a concert of the legendary OzzY ♡
Ciaoo
August 2nd, 2025 at 21:06It might have also been Joe Holmes. He’s the Ozzy guitarist I always forget about.
My favorite Ozzy guitarist is actually Jake E Lee. You’re not allowed to say it, but I thought Randy Rhoads overrated, his tragic death turned him into a legend.
I saw Zakk with Ozzy in 1988 when he was basically still a boy. He reminded me of a tall Randy (who I had also seen and who was tiny), he was back then still androgynous-looking and skinny as a rake, not the body builder type he became. He was hugely energetic, but again he did not impress me like Jake E Lee who I thought was musically the grown-up among Ozzy’s many guitarists. I found him the most tasteful too.
August 2nd, 2025 at 23:50Mee too, my favourite has been always J.Lee even if I love Randy (#2) and Zakk (#3)
August 3rd, 2025 at 09:36Uwe,
August 3rd, 2025 at 14:19to be honest, I think I saw Holmes on stage that time, now that I’ve seen some photos of him and not Gus G.
Then I understand why you forgot him 😂, don‘t think that would have been the case with Gus G!
August 4th, 2025 at 02:03yes, now it’s clear, Uwe 👍
August 4th, 2025 at 09:39Ozzy always had a good choice of musicians, limited as he himself was. And they all played with him and not just because of the money and his fame, but also because they were attracted to his undeniable charm and his idiosyncrasies.
August 4th, 2025 at 15:13@102
August 5th, 2025 at 05:33Yes Uwe,
for example Lee never had the rights to Barlk At The Moon, only to The Ultimate Sin for which he said: “for this second album this time first, I sign the contract and then I record and not the other way around”.
I like The Ultimate Sin incidentally, it’s my favorite Ozzy album (also the one I know best). After Ozzy did all he could to erase it from his past work, it seems to have seen some reappreciation in recent years.
August 5th, 2025 at 15:55Ozzy said he hated The Ultimate Sin because of the sound production. I’ve never really understood why: it’s a great album, well made…
August 5th, 2025 at 21:08Hey Uwe
August 6th, 2025 at 10:35Here the concert I told before (in Milano)
I was there..
https://youtu.be/0Bv3VuVovwg?si=hjGdCz2fX6OUfp-N
Duh, you didn’t mention that was a line-up with Geezer Butler, AndreA, maledetto, that is unforgivable! 😂
That’s tantamount to coming from the Vatican and not telling you had an audience with the Pope, I am flabbergasted.
Or had you forgotten about Geezer too?
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyZDl3a3AwZWQxdTY3ZHVvdzc1YjYzZ2V6eGs4YWM1anRpM3VkeXllbyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/GA1sltMVrl4YJgMyh5/source.gif
August 6th, 2025 at 22:04That was when Geezer mistakingly thought that the grass was greener on the other side. Leaving Black Sabbath after the Cross Purposes tour and having a good belly ache about that. Geezer didn’t stay long at the Ozzy circus either and of course had a good whinge about that too. Hence the later 90’s original Sabbath lineup ‘reunion’. Cheers.
August 6th, 2025 at 23:26@104, 105
Seems I share something with Ozzy for once. While I like some of the songs on The Ultimate Sin the sound is one of the worst I have ever heard on a copy of a pro production.
August 7th, 2025 at 05:25Ma in that concert there is not Geezer: I don’t understand what you mean, dear Uwe.🙃
August 7th, 2025 at 06:31I’ve been to Rome many times in my life but never for the Pope, who knows why…🙄
I’ve never been a fan of mafia movies; I’ve always hated The Godfather saga (maybe I only saw the first one). We’re already awful, I don’t need cinematic celebrations to further glorify 💩
Oh sorry Uwe,
August 7th, 2025 at 09:22effectively there was also Geezer but now my memories are foggy… in prehistory.
😪
I have found this on YT
August 7th, 2025 at 17:31https://youtu.be/vyuYmkzXfW0?si=9rksrZlB0er0hQuK
Black Sabbath in Milan, June 1998. Of course I was there for it. Great moment even if there was Appice on drums instead of Bill.
I ever think that Appice was good for the sound of Dio. Of course is a good musician but with BS I find him like a chain on feet, too stiff and too heavy.
AndreA, it’s all good! I was only projecting my own deficiencies on you. You know what? When I saw Ozzy in Phoenix, Arizona, in 1988 I was unaware that Geezer had joined the band. So throughout the gig I wondered “man, this guy looks like Geezer, moves like Geezer, plays like Geezer, sounds like Geezer – what a rip-off – and is certainly not Bob Daisley, Rudy Sarzo or Phil Soussan”, yet I did not assume he actually was Geezer! 🤣 I only found that out when Ozzy introduced him eventually.
As always, former Achsenmächte have a lot in common.
Totally with you re Vinnie Appice in Sabbath – he did drag. Heavy boots of lead indeed!
August 7th, 2025 at 18:30@113
Uwe…
Many years ago, in the late ’90s, it was St. Patrick’s Day, the patron saint of Ireland. It’s also celebrated in Milan. A friend of mine and I decided to go out that night and crash some local party. Well, we arrived just as a blues concert was starting, where we knew Peter Green was playing in a small arena… well done! Then, after we’d already had a lot to drink, I said to my friend, “Hey… the bass player is Neil Murray!!! Look at him!!!” Yup, it was him!!! After a few minutes of staring half-drunk at the stage, I said to him, “Damn!!! That’s Cozy!!! Cozy Powell!!!” So by chance, I found myself among my idols…🤣😅🤣
August 7th, 2025 at 23:03That’s like me at that dreadful Queen musical in London when at the end of the show – another day, another buck – Neil Murray and Laurie Wisefield (Wishbone Ash) nonchalantly walked off the stage to take the bus home. 😂
Neil is about twice the height of Laurie, but Laurie has the nicer butt – and if I may say so myself!
August 8th, 2025 at 15:09I was at that musical too, enjoying a backstage tour (being in the business has its perks), when I was introduced to one of the band members. I quickly asked when Neil was coming in, hoping to get to meet him in person. “Oh, he’s off tonight.”
August 9th, 2025 at 00:23I found this vid instructive in making a case how Sabbath did not “invent” Heavy Metal by themselves, but were part of a larger musical movement to a more pronounced darkness and heaviness in rock which started somewhere around 1967/68 and emanated originally from Blues and Psychedelia:
https://youtu.be/C7Vcok3nN8c
With the exception of Gun and Edgar Broughton Band, I didn’t know any of these bands.
August 24th, 2025 at 22:51