Images of sorrow, pictures of delight
A slideshow of historical photos, some very well known, some not so much. Caveat: dating for quite a few of them seems dubious. Best viewed in full screen.
Thanks to steve4422 for the heads-up.
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A slideshow of historical photos, some very well known, some not so much. Caveat: dating for quite a few of them seems dubious. Best viewed in full screen.
Thanks to steve4422 for the heads-up.
Unauthorized copying, while sometimes necessary, is never as good as the real thing
Ok I had seen most of the pics before.
But there is a mistake near the end, because a pic with Mark lll cannot be from ‘72 – ‘73 as suggested!
And the red cocktail dress Ian is wearing, woah! 😄
September 12th, 2025 at 01:19Most of the dates and some names are wrong.
September 12th, 2025 at 05:33Two Ians Big and Lemmy
September 4 1982 Zagreb ….101%
September 12th, 2025 at 08:17Some good images there that I have never noticed before. They are even smiling in a few of them too, he he he. Oh the incessant touring and argy bargy that can go on at times wearing people down, causing all sorts of issues. Many DP images I have noticed over the years are similar to Pink Floyd images. Not a lot of happy campers there at times. I suppose one can get annoyed at having to pose for photographers constantly, trying to look as fresh as a daisy, it would be a drag wouldn’t it? Oh well, not to worry, life at the top eh? I enjoyed Ronnie’s wedding pic. Long live rock ‘n roll. Cheers.
September 12th, 2025 at 08:25“But there is a mistake near the end, because a pic with Mark lll cannot be from ‘72 – ‘73 as suggested!”
Frau Verndal is causing confusion – as usual! If the pic did indeed show Mk III, then the caption would at least still be half-right as Mk III existed by late summer/early fall 1973. However, the photo at 13:12 or so shows Tommy Bolin seated (with soul brother Glenn schmoozing up to him on the armrest) , making it Mk IV and dating it early fall 1975 when those initial Mk IV promo shots came out.
We can surmise: Karin was accidentally right – picture is dated wrong – but she didn’t know how or why! It’s a paranormal activity called “female intuition”. 🤣
September 12th, 2025 at 12:06Hey Karin
Pedant that I am, I have to point out that a MKIII photo could have been taken from September 1973 🙂🙂
September 12th, 2025 at 12:17Hello Charles 😃
You know what? I take your word for this 😄
Actually I wasn’t quite sure when Ian left Mark ll.
Thank you 🙏🏼
September 12th, 2025 at 16:05@
“We can surmise: Karin was accidentally right – picture is dated wrong – but she didn’t know how or why! It’s a paranormal activity called “female intuition”. 🤣”
– well, as far as I know Ian was a very important member of Mark ll, and he did leave in ‘73.
I do not know exactly when, but I know, and believe, that it was the biggest mistake worldwide that our tenor left Purple 😖
Luckily he returned, and Uwe you have to agree with me: Purple could not excist for very long without Ian!
No matter how they tried to make a solid constellation, it flopped big time!
But when Ian returned (yeah and of course also Roger) the universe again made sense 😇 life could continue and we could breathe easily again🥰
I know Ian got fired (actually I have never understood why he did get fired? He was drinking too much? Do you know the reason Uwe?) but he returned again, unfortunately Ritchie dropped out, but Steve and later on Simon took on the responsibility and they have made lovely memories in form of beautiful music 😍
And now I’m ready to respond to your insults but I know you’re home alone, and must be missing Edith big time, so this time Lasse ich die Gnade über die Gerechtigkeit triumphieren – you’re welcome 😃
September 12th, 2025 at 17:14Ian wasn’t strictly “fired“ in 1972, he handed in his letter of resignation to the management in the fall of 1972 – not too long after the MiJ gigs – with basically a six month‘s notice when he realized that he would not win the battle for supremacy against Ritchie (with management and the rest of the band backing Ritchie). He likely expected someone from the band to talk him out of it, the resignation was a declaratory cry for help, but no one did. Ritchie wanted to recast the band after Free or leave it altogether.
Jon originally wanted to continue with Roger and Paicey, but then switched sides when Blackmore said he wanted Glover out as well if he (Ritchie) were to consider staying with DP. When Roger found out about that, he handed in his resignation too rather than be fired. The band continued to tour with both Gillan and Glover knowing they’d be out of the band by the summer of 1973 – the vibes were of course miserable. Glenn had already been hired in March 1973 as the new bassist and second vocalist as desired by Ritchie.
The truth is that by 1972, Ritchie really didn’t want Mk II to continue to sound like Mk II anymore, be wanted a bluesier, blacker sound with less organ dominance – a joint tour of Free and DP in Australia in 1971 had seen him hatch the idea of doing something along the lines of Free, that is how Mk III came about, with a bassist similar to Andy Fraser and a lead singer similar to Paul Rodgers.
As to Ian Gillan being “the” singer of DP: I’d say that DP period of greatest cultural and musical significance was from 1970 to 1972. It is when their core sound was forged and their music combined progressive streaks with a commercial nous. Like it or not, that was the era of Mk II and Ian’s voice, image and lyrics co-determined the classic Mk II sound.
Mk III was more a corporate beast, designed to tour American stadiums and cash in. That doesn’t mean it is was without musical merit: The dual lead vocals, the rhythmically more pronounced playing by Glenn and Ian, Ritchie’s developing self-styling as more of a lone guitar god than part of an organ/guitar tandem, the stronger American influences in songwriting all made Mk III sound fresh and extremely professional. But no one would have described the DP of 1974/75 as progressive anymore, they were a rock royalty behemoth designed to overwhelm in large venues.
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Now where did I insult you, liebe Karin? All my constructive and well-intentioned criticism is directed at your continuous betterment as a DP historian – we all learn here!
September 12th, 2025 at 22:53Ian (Gillian) in the red dress is the best..!
September 13th, 2025 at 16:22@9
wir sind in einem Sommerhaus und können nur deutsches Fernsehen schauen, es ist ziemlich gemütlich!
Entschuldigung if some German words is unterwegs verwendet 😄
Uwe, I never said Ian was fired in the beginning of the 70s!
I know he sacked himself and I have even read his very heartfelt letter!
You have never insulted me for real 😄 normally I just smile und gedenken das du nur bist sehr freundlich (sorry for all the misspellings 😱🫣)
But you cannot behaupten that Purple gut funktionierend without Ian!
September 13th, 2025 at 19:24“Images of sorrow, pictures of delight – things that go to make up a life.” Nice to see a Genesis reference here!
What is a DP / Genesis connection? Phil Collins played percussion on “Savannah Woman” on Tommy Bolin’s “Teaser” album. (Glenn is on one song on there also, uncredited: his powerful guest vocals on “Dreamer”)
September 13th, 2025 at 19:57I don’t have issues with saying that: DC and GH were both excellent singers and were above all a great match, but IG was the best fit with Purple and dwarfed them as a lyricist.
And Mk III and IV were great stadium rockers, but nowhere as cerebrally appealing as Mk II.
I also think that GILLAN’s non-black-blues-vocals (Ian wasn’t a blues singer though his screech was borrowed from a black man: Little Richard) were a unique selling point of Mk II – after all there was already one Led Zeppelin and one Free. By the same token, I never thought him doing a song like No More Cane On The Brazos an especially wise choice.
Other people can do that more credibly:
https://youtu.be/EdXALRPqRqM
https://youtu.be/I5KhRRfqpJg
https://youtu.be/LHgtHn2Y7yI
I know, I know, Karin is now gonna come out saying that Ian’s version beats them all in authenticity and she smells the molasses in the air hearing it! 😂
For the rest of us the following applies: Schuster bleib bei deinen Leisten!
September 13th, 2025 at 23:14A Genesis connection with Deep Purple, rare no doubt. It took my memory a minute or two to search and find that melody and vocal line of Phil Collins. Not ‘musically” connected but the same is the drummer stance of both Ian Paice and Phil, being lefties. Have to love that and also their big band jazz influence.
September 13th, 2025 at 23:55I wonder if Uwe is busy trying to find a more substantial connection between both British bands or will trusty ole AI beat him to it. Cheers.
@13
“but IG was the best fit with Purple and dwarfed them as a lyricist.”
– UWE 😃 du bist jetzt vernünftig und weise, sehr weise!
This is true! Ian was and is the very best choice for Purple 😊
I also like DC (well, now I do ☺️) but for Purple Ian is a perfect match!
One could be tempted to say: he is 10 out of 10 ☺️😉
I guess it’s a personality thing – he is cheeky but very courteous, he is ‘in-your-face with his lyrics but very intelligent, there are (as far as I get it) tons of double entendre in his songs (well, except ‘Knocking at your bag door’, ‘Hard loving man/woman’ and there may be more…🙂) but still not too much so innocent youngsters will be thrown into adult life in an inappropriate way.
I often sit with a very big smile and giggle reading his lyrics.
Bob Dylan got a Nobel award for his lyrics, well I think Ian ought to get two!
“And Mk III and IV were great stadium rockers, but nowhere as cerebrally appealing as Mk II.”
– Uwe, is this what happens when you’re home alone?
Suddenly you can see stuff others have known for decades 😄
I do need to say that Purple with SM and SMcB are almost there too…
RB was the genius, no doubt about that, he was a poet (yeah I know he isn’t dead but since he has turned his back on rock and are going on with ‘what’s-her-name’ into medieval folk-songs, he doesn’t strike me as a genius anymore, but hey I could be wrong here! I don’t think so, but I could 😄) and even his antics on and off stage (ok apparently he was more annoying than amusing) did make people wonder how he would behave at each concert!
Nothing is better to turn people on than being a little bit unreasonable and downright mysterious 😊 (I’m told).
“(Ian wasn’t a blues singer though his screech was borrowed from a black man: Little Richard)”
– no no no no! Ian’s style is his very own !
“I know, I know, Karin is now gonna come out saying that Ian’s version beats them all in authenticity and she smells the molasses in the air hearing it! 😂”
– hey! HEY! No need to laugh there!
I’m known for nothing if not my loyalty! When I love a person I will go to extreme lengths to protect and save that individual! Likewise when I like a singer and a band: they need to be VERY bad for a long time for me to dismiss them!
September 14th, 2025 at 05:46‘Molasses’ – 🤣🤣🤣
Try ‘Lilly of the valley’, ‘Roses’, ‘Lavenders’, ‘very good coffee’, and Paloma Picasso’s signature scent 😃
Hi Uwe,
September 14th, 2025 at 10:55I would like to get in touch with you, if you are so kind, for a little help for a private purple project of mine. you could contact me on this mail, legacy2030@outlook.es, and I would like to thank you for your help before hand.
Jose Galván
Re Ian and Genesis, I don’t need AI, I just have good memory regarding this interview: The day when Ian – not Ted – was offered the job to be one of the mechanics of a guy named Mike …
KH: Considering your talent, apart from your brief period with Black Sabbath were you ever approached with a view to fronting any other established rock bands?
Ian Gillan: I never really considered it, I did have offers from some well known bands and some less well known bands, actually… I was approached by the guy from Mike and the Mechanics, ah what’s his name?…Michael…Michael Rutherford, which I obviously turned down as it’s really not my sort of thing.
https://myglobalmind.com/2016/09/18/lead-singer-mike-mechanics-ian-gillan-talks-career-choices/
Too bad for Karin, she could have heard Living Years done by Ian!
Nor have I forgotten how in a 1983 blind test of the month’s singles in German Musik Express the then-singer of Black Sabbath was totally floored by Mama from Genesis declaring it “wonderful music, I like this best so far”.
September 14th, 2025 at 13:42Of course, more than anything, this particular pic epitomizes SOCKS, DRUGS & ROCK ’N’ROLL …
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5fXBnNPSPJCkPC3Wk2NYwQsvJ_HaTvPh9y-O_toeXwA&s=10
I just wanted to dangle that thought here.
September 14th, 2025 at 16:34@17
“Too bad for Karin, she could have heard Living Years done by Ian!”
– do not ever feel sorry for me!
I heard Ian sing CiT, that I can live on should I never hear anything else 😄
September 14th, 2025 at 19:45@ 17 – those are not musical ‘connections’ Uwe. Stabbing in the dark are we? Where is the connection from Deep Purple to Genesis the rock band? I thought I had better put in the ‘rock band’ bit just in case anyone tried that old reference book connection. Maybe that is where Gillan gets some of his lyrics from, or at least the inspiration? Below is about the closest we will ever get apart from Jim’s link @ 12, well done Jim. You beat the Uwe catalogued reference machine. I hope AI wasn’t needed at all, he he he. Thanks for highlighting that link though. Cheers.
https://www.facebook.com/deeppurple6876/posts/ritchie-blackmore-discussing-the-genesis-of-deep-purple-in-1968httpsyoutubezidst/1265947008223758/
September 14th, 2025 at 21:26Wonderful pictures of the greatest players.☺
September 15th, 2025 at 11:54@14 Phil Collins plays on Tommy Bolin’s “Teaser” album.
September 15th, 2025 at 17:57@ 22 – Jim @ 12 had already stated that one. I was elaborating on that connection. Cheers.
September 15th, 2025 at 21:56@12 Jim and @23 MacGregor, sorry I hadn’t noticed Jim’s comment above, sorry about that.
September 16th, 2025 at 13:44It’s becoming very difficult to navigate through the comments on THS lately.
@ 24- No problem Stathis. I should have referenced Jim’s comment in my first post. Having searched quite a bit online, I couldn’t find anything else apart from the link with Tommy Bolin and Phil Collins. The book of Genesis has not been entrapped in the tentacles of the Deep Purple tree, which is surprising in a way. Cheers.
September 16th, 2025 at 21:59