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$500 an hour is a lot indeed

In this interview with the Classic Album Review podcast, Candice Night tells a story, among others, how Rainbow album Stranger in Us All US release was sabotaged by sheer miscommunication.

Thanks to Uwe Hornung for the heads-up.



18 Comments to “$500 an hour is a lot indeed”:

  1. 1
    Uwe Hornung says:

    I‘m afraid that if the Blackmores continue to hire attorneys with standard rates of only $ 500 an hour, they will never get those rights back for Ritchie. You get what you pay for.

  2. 2
    Rick says:

    @1 Is Mr. Hornung an expert on everything?

  3. 3
    Karin Verndal says:

    @1

    Ok Uwe what’s your rate?
    (With my temper I might need some legal advices some day, so it’s nice to know how much I need to save first!)
    (Nooooo, I’m cool as a cucumber 🥒 ) (would still like to know your rate though!)

  4. 4
    Adel Faragalla says:

    As I have zero understanding of how much a copy right to a failing album is worth.
    Whether you like Blackmore or not the numbers for the album sales for stranger in us all is very low.
    So hypothetically if he spends 50k us dollars to own the copy right then what’s the return on this investment.
    It’s sounds like someone is trying to prove a point rather than make money.
    Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
    Peace ✌️

  5. 5
    Karin Verndal says:

    @2

    Rick, yes he is! You better get used to it 😄
    I haven’t often found any faults in his posts (and believe you me I have tried! Oh how I have examined him 😄)

  6. 6
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Last time I looked it was 900 Euros (I’m retired from the partnership and only an of counsel now) or something – and that’s in Frankfurt, not London, Moscow, Tokyo, Singapore, Paris or New York where rates are much higher. For Long Island, part of which still belongs to NYC, 500 bucks is more than reasonable and close to a bargain if you really want a well-versed attorney with IP knowledge (which I can assure you the people acting for the record and publishing companies will have in loads).

    Now before everyone exclaims how much that is: That is what my firm charged for me, not what I received as a partner! A law firm has basically four major cost factors: rent (expensive because you need to be in the central metropolitan areas in suitably representative buildings), employees (especially associates/junior lawyers which are expensive), state-of-the-art IT infrastructure (needs to be basically made new every few years) and partners’ profits. Everything else has to be paid before you get to the profits. And very good clients of course get – often substantial – discounts. If 30 to 35% of your turnover becomes partners’ profits (BEFORE taxes!), then you are doing fine. It can be less, rarely more. But yes, it’s a well-paid profession. So is hi-end prostitution and that is after all the oldest profession, lawyering is the second oldest one! 😎

    Now what can I do for you? We can discuss turnover-based rebates as we move along …

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    PS: “Is Mr. Hornung an expert on everything?” Well, he reads a lot and has some insular, scattered know-how on reptiles, fish, critters in general, WWII history, bass playing, cinema, law firm economics, politics and a bit on DP and related bands. Ask me anything about soccer, IT or how a car engine works (fossile or otherwise) and I really suck.

  7. 7
    Uwe Hornung says:

    I agree that the future proceeds from Stranger In Us All are unlikely to be a pot of gold at the end of the Rainbow, Adel.

    And I take Candice’s sabotage theory with a pinch of salt: For the year of 1995, SIUA was simply unremarkable and very, very plain plus dithering somewhere between Dio’ish fantasy heavy rock and Joe Lynn Turner’ish attempts at AOR. It sounded like Nirvana and Metallica had never happened, yet it wasn’t something of its own like a Purple album either. All the musicians on that album were faceless (a tried trusted tradition with Rainbow, mostly).

    That’s probably the most damning thing you can say about an album with Ritchie: That it was unremarkable. Even TBRO with its sizzling “we don’t get along anymore, but we’re only successful together”- negative undercurrent was more interesting.

    I don’t particularly dislike the album, it’s just pretty much irrelevant. Ein Ohr rein, ein Ohr raus.

  8. 8
    MacGregor says:

    If the above article is about protecting your property, then so be it. The amount of money spent to protect your property is utterly irrelevant. So many low life’s in this world who think they can take whatever, whenever they feel like it. Is that any different to protecting your abode and any other assets that you may have, that you feel need protecting. It isn’t about ‘investment’ as in trying to make more money. How many people install expensive security at their property to thwart off possible theft etc. Plenty of people spend up big in an effort to safe guard their assets and good on them for doing that. Cheers.

  9. 9
    Karin Verndal says:

    @6

    Uwe, now you’re mentioning Al Pacino, I wondered:

    Isn’t it difficult to take on a case where you in your hearts of hearts know that the one you represent isn’t a lamb?
    (I’m not thinking of murderer, but more like a miserable human being ☺️)
    My question really is: isn’t it almost impossible to be completely unbiased?

    (If I had to defend, ohh let’s say Andy Garcia (sigh 😍) and I knew he was guilty in EVERYTHING, I would do my outmost to help him!

    But did he had a striking resemblance to some western leader, I would even bribe the judge to get him in jail 🤣🤣)

  10. 10
    Uwe Hornung says:

    “Isn’t it difficult to take on a case where you in your hearts of hearts know that the one you represent isn’t a lamb?”

    I never did criminal law, but the former drummer of one of the bands I played in is a criminal trial lawyer and he acts for rapists, murderers, child abusers, Nazis and drug dealers (“anything with blood dripping from the files …” he jokes). He doesn’t have an issue with that, not because he is callous, but because – and I agree with that – he believes that even (and especially) the guilty deserve the best defense they can get – that is a civilizational achievement and a sacred one at that. Give up on that and we’re pretty quickly back to being monkeys swinging in the trees again. Even Adolf Hitler would have deserved a good criminal defense had he been tried in Nürnberg – I truly believe that. Also a bullet in the brain if you can’t arrest him, but once the State holds custody over him, he deserves a trial.

    That said, in civil matters I have refused to act for some clients. Like that organisation that wanted to assert damage/restitution claims against the Czech Republic for the exiled and expropriated German minorities/Vertriebene after WWII before German and European Courts. I told them politely to fuck off (after taking a look at history and what Germans had done to Czechoslovakia) and take their revisionist crap somewhere else. The nerve some people have …

    Also for people who thought they could make a quick buck out of Weimar Republic government bonds after Germany reunified in the early 90ies – bunch of scavengers they were.

    And I have quietly thrown away (and not presented in court) documents of which I knew that the client had fabricated and backdated them to manufacture evidence supporting his case. There is an old attorneys’ proverb in Germany and it goes: “Except for your wife, no one lies to your face like your own client.” How true. 😁

  11. 11
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Vigilante man MacGregor @8: Ah, there’s the old frontiersman spirit again. Horse thieves are hanged!

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  12. 12
    Karin Verndal says:

    @10

    “There is an old attorneys’ proverb in Germany and it goes: “Except for your wife, no one lies to your face like your own client.” How true. 😁”

    – arrrhh? 🥺 that is sad Uwe!
    I’m not thinking of the clients, but it’s sad if spouses lie to each other…

  13. 13
    RB says:

    Ritchie should save his money as it’s not a great album (although I like Ariel, Still I’m Sad and Doogie’s vocals).

  14. 14
    James Gemmell says:

    Conversation with Gillan backstage in 2007, Farwell, Michigan:

    Gillan: We call them barristers in England. You call them lawyers in the States.
    Gemmell : Among other things.
    Gillan: ha!

  15. 15
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Isn’t a barrister someone who serves deep aroma coffees scantily clothed?

    https://bikinibeanscoffee.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/bikini_beans_girls.png

    https://bikinibeanscoffee.com/hot-coffee-bikinied-baristas-serve-drive-through-joe/

    Yeah, I appreciate them too. They give you steaming hot cream experiences, yummy!

    PS: Actually, a barrister is someone admitted to the Bar in England and Wales and doing solely court/trial work (I’m simplifying). The vast majority of British lawyers are solicitors, the ratio barrister to solicitor is 1:12 as of 2024. And while solicitors may meanwhile also appear before a UK court, their work is mainly of transactional/contractual nature.

  16. 16
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Candice pays tribute to working moms set over a drum beat lifted seemingly straight off Springsteen’s I’m On Fire with more than a C&W twinge, actually a nice song:

    https://youtu.be/nDM0iy3QKRM

    The lyrics mention dragons (though more of the non-scaly type you encounter everyday) so Herr MacGregor’s inner 14-year-old should be rapturous.

  17. 17
    Frater Amorifer says:

    Uwe #10: Since you mentioned the reunification of Germany, and you’re familiar with the law – and since RB seems to like Germany as well – Do you think there’s any chance of ALL of Germany ever being reunited, to the pre-WWII borders, including East Prussia (where John Kay of Steppenwolf was born)? What you’ve got now is only about 2/3 of historical Germany. As a German/Irish American, I know it’s not likely, but we can all dream…

  18. 18
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Frater, you’re pulling my leg, right? 🤯

    I go to bed every night praying that not a single square inch of the German Reich as it was in 1914, 1933, 1938 or 1940/41 (the Reich at its greatest expansion I think) will be ever returned to present day Germany, we’re large enough, danke schön. (Nor do I deem it likely or possible.) What you call a dream would be my nightmare.

    In 1914 we had an inept leadership that let us slide into a nonsensical global conflict we lost, in 1933 we had an evil incarnate leadership that wanted to subjugate Western and Eastern Europe, murdering and/or displacing millions of people along the way to make room for Germans. If I had been a Czech, Pole or Russian in 1945, having survived German occupation, oppression and genocide, I wouldn’t have hesitated one second to evict the German parts of the population (who had invited the German war machine and played a vital role in making WWII possible, just look at the pre-war-election results the NSDAP had in those regions) to put their apparently incurable irredentist leanings (as amply demonstrated pre-war) to rest once and for all.

    It’s a miracle by grace of the Allies that Germany as a nation state survived at all for all the unspeakable horrors it was responsible for – I find any economic or geographical restitution compensation claims from the German side based on the WWII outcome inherently obscene. That doesn’t mean that there weren’t innocent Germans and even Nazi opponents that fell victim to the Vertreibung/mass displacement after the war and the redrawing of borders – but given what had happened before, even they could have hardly been surprised. My grandfather served on the Eastern Front as a motorcycle messenger/Kradmelder. Once a devout Nazi even he – my mother told me – would fall more and more silent & sullen on his home leaves/Heimaturlaub from the front and mutter: “We better not lose this war, God have mercy, things I’ve seen we’ve done over there …”.

    The comparison with Eire doesn’t work at all. Eire was colonized and subjugated by the English, not vice versa. There was no Irish imperialism against the UK (well, when U2 tours there, maybe there is … 😂) that was ultimately unsuccessful leading Eire having to cede regions to the UK (that said, they are still waiting for Northern Ireland to be returned to them, but that is only a matter of time).

    Germany as large on the map as it used to be … I shudder at the thought! Let’s keep it as it is.

    PS: With Ritchie I always marvel that his first two wives were German and nos 3 & 4 both American with a Jewish ancestry (Candice Lauren Isralow has Polish-Jewish roots, I believe Amy Rothman’s – one of her relatives was a partner of mine in our law firm, he was at her and Ritchie’s wedding and said Ritchie was at his best behavior – ancestors came from Russia). An interesting dichotomy going on there. I wonder if it ever transpires to Ritchie that under the Nürnberger Rassengesetze/race laws, both Autumn and Rory with their Jewish mother would have been deported to the death camps only 80 years ago. History always has a watchful eye on us.

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