“Why dont YOU?
Or Steve?”

Thats a real mature approach, not! Rather than bag it, just get over the hangup, how’s that sound? You’re acting jealous and it’s just downright childish. Nothing to be jealous about, we’re all equals here and I’m sure you’re a decent guy in person, in fact I’ll wage money on that, compadre’.

It doesn’t matter who started it, you say you “never said for me to bag it.” Did you not?

The rest of what you say seems to be both a matter of misenterpretation OR just plain snobbery. If you have a language problem thats not my fault. But you’re always coming and going with the bull concerning who’s better than who on the guitar. Talk about rubbish! Get some rest… ggod night to you too, preacher!

I never said you to bag it, you started that……

You know very much but your attitude is always that you re the only one……

You come up with the weak argument that I m only pre occupied with the past.

When one read everything I write its evident that that is nonsense to say.

Good night Mister Teacher.

There is nothing for me to bag, I’m not stuck on any guitar player and keep trying to justify that. I like bands though, and singers too.

itchie wrote this and Ritchie wrote that, big deal, so have others… whats your point there anyway? Ritchie isn’t quite the songwriter you think he is, ask any songwriter. Without the help he’s had it would just be guitar playing.

Gillan and Glover are key to many of his songs. They’re brilliant songwriters, but then again so were the Beatles. You must remember that the Beatles wrote great songs, but did they JAM like Purple?
I’m just sick and tired of reading your constant common denominator as if we don’t care enough about Ritchie.

Whats for me to bag, I let the past be the past and don’t let it rule my thoughts.

I think it was MoreBlack who brought it up again this time, I think.
Does not matter.

Apart from the fact that I m not busy with whats fashionable or not…..

Whats OK today is very difficult to pinpoint.

Things change all the time and I m not so sure that young people in general would or dont like the extended charactre of what DP ONCE exemplified.

I can ask you……
Are you sure?
But……

Its very possible the FLOW of things here are being interrupted time and again due to the mood of the Moderators at a certain moment.
So I dont know now if people here do or dont respomd to something I or someone else wrote.

Fashions change all the time and I feel ONE should stick to their guns or else one gets lost……

Kierkegaard said something about that.
Difficult to translate as beautiful as I ve heard but……
In my humble perception…..
If one follows Zeitgeist one risks to become orphaned one day because Zeitgeist changed again……

In A Gadda Da Vida, great track too, yes.
Hehehe

Rick Wakeman once replied in interview with a sceptical reporter about the long and old fashioned solos in his work……

Yeah, great isnt it?!

Wonderfully put, Rick.

Thanx to the Americains SOTW became that legendary riff after it almost got neglected, so thanx to your fellow men and women, Tracy.

I do know and understand your argument about the HISTORICAL CONTEXT of the SOTW riff but I know and understand that one for ages.

I m not oblivious.
I DID study History at University so something must have rubbed off way back then…….

I guess its only interesting background for younger chappies around here, and not perse for us?

What I also try to say again and again that SOTW became the main association for so many youngsters AND seniors is VERY ANNOYING.

They and HE did so much more

AND YOU KNOW THAT.

Do you like to lead yourself on or do you just like to stir up things so that we can write endlessly about these topics?

I m VERY happy with my taste in music and other things, thank you.
I dont care if my tastes in general are old fashioned or not.

Do you?

Cheers, Mark

Also, I’m not complaining about SOTW. Just using it along with Anya regarding responding to the subject you brought to the table….Repetitiveness…..They all do it, and Blackmore is the master of it. You just happen to like hearing Blackmore do it. Just as ‘Son of Alerik’, one that you seem to drool over…..Possibly the longest repeat track ever beside “In A Gadda Da Vida”.

“In A Gadda Da Vida” is a perfect example of a Riff that defines a band and is also Legendary……do you think it would be anything today, had it been put out 10 or 15 years ago? Of course not. Sign of the times and What Was. Timing and Era my friend. Music isn’t thought of today as it was yesterday. The Guitar Hero isn’t what it used to be……..but the Band Is.

Legendary Riff? Again, different time. If SOTW came out today for the first time…..do you really think it would be a Legendary Riff? Timing is everything. Purple and Blackmore have been around for 40 years. Twice that of Morse in the public eye. Smoke is Purple’s Great Riff accomplishment that derived from an accident and perfect timing. It wasn’t recognized as such upon the Studio release and only due to the great quality and performance on the ‘Live in Japan’ did it come to be noticed and as with many songs in that era which are highly over rated but a sign of the times, it is the song that defines them in the public eye, and that sir is a crime…..

Cheers

I d NOT set your money on……

Well, an optimistic mind can lead to too much expectations, I know.
Apart from that I think they have it IN them to do better and more.

Ofcourse I cant expect too much from the fiddlers progression ofcourse.
He follows like a perpetuum mobile as the hired hand he is.
Thats probably the reason they chose him.So that they could dominate instead the banjoplayer.

It might be that Cruise control and Take it off to the top are memorable to a certain degree but….
In numbers I d set your money on the contest with those 2 and the countless ones Ritchie wrote.
From Smoke to Gates of Babylon and inbetween and after there are so many one cant stop and or choose really.

Yeah, Larry, its kinda stupid indeed to repeat on forums this thing.
Espescially because there is really NO COMPETION or TOPIC and certainly not one between equal players

But I m not the only one here who puts a lot of time in that.

Should I bag it?!
Again that weak argument to lay low or bag it .
Why dont YOU?
Or Steve?

I guess time will tell.

I dont feel like a poor sap, hehehe

I ve got a wall full of different creative recordings of the man in black.

Your countering is hopeless

Even a child recognised the difference between them both and not in a positive way…….

Yesterday I was enjoying my repeated, hehehe, listening to Montreux 69.

I must admit you make me laugh very often now…..
Every time now when I listen to long and extended tracks like Mandrake Root I associate them with Tracy heading to the bar and moaning after a while that DP should quit all that boring solooing!!!!

And now you re even whining about Smoke On The Water…..
Did Steve write a legendary universal riff?

I wasn’t pointing at you with my response. I was actually riding your wave. You brought ‘Spanish Archer’ to the forefront, I added ‘Anya’. For God’s Sake, how about I add the forbidden Icon Tune of All…..’Smoke on the Water’……Da Da Da….Da Da Da Da….Da Da Da…Da Da……….

The most repeated Riff in a song of ALL TIME!!!!

The MIB Worshippers will constantly point the finger, bitch and moan about all Purple without Ritchie, YET HE LEFT ON HIS OWN.

Again….Poor Saps. Must be a total drag when the most important thing in life is the Lack of Blackmore in Purple…..

“Might Just Take Your Life” then. Make room for those whom have room for MORE. See ya in the After Life.

Moreblack#42

And One was awarded the “Best Guitarist” 4 years in a ROW in the World Renowned Guitar Players Magazine…..”Guitar Player”…..and he also wrote many columns for Guitar Players also……While the other was gearing up for his Romp in the Forest, while dressing up like a little Elf, along with his BOSS.

Cheers

I knew that already, CG.
Learning all the time, hehehe

Btw, I cant stand relativism.

I’m using that song as an example concerning the constant whine that Morse repeats him self throughout a song, not in the overall sense really, as thats only half the point… but Ritchie does do it to, as you mentioned with Anya, not only repeating himself but hacking already well used riffs.

The complaint is this: Morse repeats the same runs all the time and plays the same solo in every song. But Blackmore does so as well, he’s just perhaps more interesting no matter what he does, and I don’t buy that it’s his playing that controls peoples minds as much as his x-factor magnatism. It can be totally explained, but as I said, all veteran players have a signature, and the signature constantly repeats and you either like them because of it or you don’t. Morse has one in the context of Purple that a lot seem to be bothered by. Blackmore does not…. so what!

The biggest difference between them is one IS rock and roll, the other is a little of that and more…. not that the more makes him any better or worse, it’s just that one fits DP so much better. This is likely where the whining comes in.

Btw, I can’t tell if you believe Ritchie about the ‘SOTW’ = Beathoven’s 5th inversion thing or not, it’s funny either way though.
(they’re clearly not the same notes inverted)

Besides that Ritchie explained a lot about his intention to make simple things with repetitive outings to take the people with him.

The difference lies in the fact he takes us with him on a journey far more versatile than what you suggest now.

#32….’Anya wanna point the repeat finger at Morse’????? Nice try..

Cheers

Typo……

First mentioning of Steve should be Ritchie ofcourse.

Uptill IG points taken and agreed.

After that about the SAMINESS problem.Which it truly is.

Are YOU really picking out that song to prove your point?!

Apart from the fact that its just ONE song …..

I think the SAMINESS PROBLEM is not about some repeating which Ritchie does ofcourse.
Steve shows, explores and so on a WEALTH of diversity throughout his work while Steve , repetition is his middel name, shows and explores just a fraction of that world.

I must laugh now because yesterday I reran that piece of Interview on The Tube in which HE with tongue in cheek explains how he ripped off Beethovens 5th by using CONVERSION, hahahaha

I see it the same way with Gillan, so those who take him so seriously should take him with that same grain of salt… ya think?

News flash… they both put their trousers on one leg at a time like the rest of us.

@34

Well then… ever hear of “labels, managers, talent agentcies and promoters?”

I’ll quote Gillan this time and you can try to spin this one all you like, but we both know enough about “Moronica” to understand exactly where he was coming from when he said “THE BUSINESS IS COMPLEX, AND VERY POWERFUL!” IG

About the saminess of Morse, throw “The Spanish Archer” on and tell me how many times Ritchie does not repeat the exact same run throughout that song… now what?
My point is that there isn’t one guitarist that doesn’t repeat himself quite often. It can’t be argued that it’s a signature thing with all veteran players.

Slit the symantic hairs…..

As often thoughtfully put Larry.

I do not own that boot unfortunately…….

Jokes aside…..

You did not everything, although you very probably have done on the same issue in the past on different boards, adress of MoreBlack s words.

1 Steve is not really a rockplayer
2 Something is missing……

And here it comes, very to the point…..

Allways squary , when its supposed to be scary.

The DANGER is lacking

And how on earth a committed performer can put on a grin during serious heavy songs…….

Here we tend to say…..

Someone who allways grins is or dishones or insane.

Cheers.

I disagree, obviously Ritchie himself does too, unless he was just joking when he said and I quote: “direction? Nobody has a direction” when asked on film about Gillan’s compliment that Ritchie has a clear direction. I guess you don’t have the TBRO Interviews DVD boot.

Opinion is all it is, in fact Ritchie also doesn’t even see himself as an artist, but thats going quite overboard if you ask me, perhaps THAT was indeed a joke, but as far as the direction thing goes in depicting him as DP’s leader… give it up, you’re beginning to slit the symantic hairs.

Yes Tracy, Rascal. I will love Deep Purple now even they get much older till their hands couldn’t pick the instruments again!!

I certainly couldnt be happier than with the DP that exists today.

Although some people seem to enjoy living in the past, creating an ‘unreality’ and losing sleep over the unfairness of life…….

Id rather enjoy the DP we have………

Nice spin, but no cigar Moreblack. In fact if you ask all of them including Ritchie, you’ll find that they thought those guys were “Bloodsuckers.” They didn’t “own” them, they only managed them. As I said, it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but you’re also entitled to the facts, and the fact is that he was not DP’s leader, he was their lead guitarist, which can be considered close to leadership in many ways, but at the end of the day it’s just his instrument and writing position being utilized as one fifth of the quintet, and that does not equate a leader, neither does being a control freak. Does it sound like I have an axe to grind with Blackmore? If so, I stand misunderstood… there is not a bone in my body that dislikes him. I understand him, but that doesn’t mean he’s been things he hasn’t.

On with the opinions…. we’re all entitled to them.

It has become very clear you like to twist the truth and or simply just not able to count.

Like you imply Gillan left in 73 on his own accord.He kept on saying then and later that it was for the best because DP had become a stagnating formula and so on……
Roger WAS sacked then, NOT Ian……
Feel sorry for old Rog and Nick,the ex Gillan band members…. people like that.

In 1990 or a little earlier indeed he was sacked by ALL of the band INCLUDING Roger

I count only once at best.

I m finished now.

seems the only unhappy blokes are the self centered fans whom only want to live in the past.

A Fairy Tale with a Happy Ending…for the rest of us….but it ain’t over just yet. Looking forward to next years PURPLE ALBUM, and to seeing ‘Blackmore’s Night’ in North Carolina on November 1st.

Cheers

I know you like to just get up the noses of those who don’t see it that way, but it never was that way, it’s your opinion and thats all it is, no use putting it as if it’s a fact!

More like:
Since when was it EVER *HIS* BAND?
Advice - stop confusing DP with Rainbow and BN.

Break time, Morblack!

I just make up my own mind.
How great they may ever be…..

Having been involved in the whole process, maybe it’s hard to stay impartial to something. Remember, this comes from the man who professes that he has been unable to listen to the MK III records to this day!

It’s very easy to criticise “HOBL” - especially with hindsight, knowing what was to come afterwards. But in comparison to “PS” and “TBRO” I often feel “HOBL” fares a bit too badly, the other two reunion records are not THAT much better.

“WDWTWA” is another thing. It just pales in comparison to the sheer magnitude of the other 4 releases of the early 70s.

And Ian is not the only one with somewhat irritating judgements. Didn’t the man in black himself express on several occasions that “IR” and “MH” were the only two Purple albums that he liked?

Priest, T
I didn’t say the album is bad…obviously it might be the last name (with MkI albums) to pick if somebody asked me which Deep Purple albums are my daily breads every time in order…
I really didn’t have any right to criticize musical aspect of an album. It’s just me who follows (reading) the time line of my favorite band..wish I was born before 1973. Anyway, I’ve heard Rat Bat Blue and Supertrouper and maybe will caught me attention if I want to hear them several times again…I don’t know why Gillan / Glover choose Mary Long to be included in their recent past setlist..
but once again, I didn’t hear much of WDWTWA

But HOuse of Blue Light, it’s a techno rock album for me. And the album just doin’ me fine even I didn’t like all the songs. I became power up every time hearing Hard Lovin’ Woman (powerful track, Gillan nail it even it dubbed, and Blackmore wonderful inspiring riff like he can only did), Bad Attitude (great vocal by Gillan), and even Call of the Wild was fun (funny video)..

#13
elprupdeep

Haha…these ‘Gillan vs Blackmore’ thing were made rock’n roll really rock’n roll. Like ‘Axl Rose vs Slash’, ‘Lee Roth vs Eddie VH’, ‘Hetzfield vs Ulrich’ and ‘Liam vs Noel of Oasis’. It’s always fun to read what all those rock’n roll star made, make, and will make on or off stage..
‘Gillan vs Blackmore’ just stand the test of time, can you tell me how far it will go on (altough I believe if not wrong since 90’s Gillan put so many words than Blackmore did)

Anyway, I enjoy to read every Gillan interview..he’s a speakable person. Wish I could chat with him, it would gimme a life.

He is mistaken that “the whole vibe is not right… [it does not] captures the spirit of the band.” Once again, the subjective comments of a band member spills over into the overall impression of a work. People believe “Who Do We Think We Are” is bad because the singer–or any band member–said so, based on some bad memories surrounding its production.

Just because the musicians had a bad time making the final product does not mean the work itself is inferior. In fact, it is this internal stress that represents Deep Purple at their best–a dislike for Blackmore notwithstanding.

No empire is indefinitely sustainable and thus run their course; however, the Spanish Empire did indeed leave an indelible legacy on humankind that superceded the aforementioned ancient cultures which are now in ruins or covered in sand: What would eventually become the Americas, and the United States in particular.

El castellano: “…no lengua del imperio, sino lengua de la imaginación, del amor, y de la justicia.”

Opnions.

BOTH WDWTWA and HOBL are packed to the rafters with classics, dont care what Mister Zero says.
He is or filled with sour grapes or likes to annoy people, I dunno….
CG seems to know. He knows everything.

Whats that song I used to like?!
Used to like ML AND Vavoom, actually….

After a while they got over exposed on stage

WFT is a cool song but even more so…..Heard it too much.
Claiming that THAT was the only one on the album with quality!!!!

Man you are entitles to say what you feel but…..

Do you really think that the following tracks are unworthy?!

Place in Line
Rat bat Blue
Smooth Dancer
Supertrouper

According to Gillan On Accidentily On Pur¨pose was one of his classics.
Well, ………..

Pffffffffffffffttttttttttttttttt

Cheers to the shameless self promoter, it seems to work every time.lol!

Rock Pages still sucks! Blame them, as they’re the culprits and Ian falls for nothing, he just obliges because he knows it bothers the sect.

like I said before, WDWTWA is less favorable album to me and not in DP standard way ( I said these thing several months ago here and people started booing my post) but here Ian Gillan perhaps have the same opinion with me…
so I just stay on my own words about WDWTWA that it’s an uninteresting album (let alone Woman From Tokyo, it’s one of my favourite DP track)

Also with Eagles(live 1980), Pink Floyd(The Final Cut), and Mr.Big (Actual Size)..I can’t enjoy album of my favourite band where the members and the environment were not in comfortable manner…
It’s the way I love a band, their musicianship as well as their friendship..
and for me Deep Purple is not only a band, but a group of friends and talented musicians..

Can’t wait their new album..
Cheers!

RE-READ IT.

This is going to be a LOOOOONG YEAR. Can’t wait for the NEW PURPLE ALBUM!!!!!

Cheers

Calling Ritchie a banjo player during the recording process of WDWTWA, made me laughing for a while…

I Still remember Ian’s interview where he talked that he had Candice Night’s mum’s pornographic pics in his house. ok, It was not polite from Ian, but whatever… he’s a damn wise, gentlemen and crazy person. You never know what to expect from Gillan haha…

what about Purple’s forthcoming album, I had 30 minutes interview with Ian before Istanbul show, this summer… he promised that DP would record new album in February 2010…
waitting… waitting… waitting…