I have had the pleasure of meeting Ritchie back on the Bent out of shape tour in Cardiff in Sept 1983. This was half way through the UK tour that I saw in its entirity

A quiet man off stage he was perfectly friendly and and talkative and I had the pleasure of chatting with him for about 2 hours back at the hotel after the gig.

He is now doing what he wants with BN and I totally supoport him for doing so.

Yeah, the Worchester show is one of the Better boots out there as far as sound quality, due it being a Radio Show gig. Unfortunately it wasn’t the whole show. Hopefully one day they will release a full show proper from that line-up.

Here is my response your inquiree regarding just that in another Topic here at THS.

http://www.thehighwaystar.com/news/2010/02/16/gillan-and-iommi-donate-musical-instruments/

Cheers

Interesting words, sounds a bit Latin like….

Could not find it….

I did not do the Classical route,unfortunately

This brain concludes for now that you are talking about 3 facts like most Americains are still calling Ian Gillan GILLIAN?

Right now enjoying the Worcester radio show from the Born Again tour in which the dj again makes that mistake.

Its almost spring, time to be reborn….

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Disturbing the Priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessttttttttt!!!!!!!!

Can you help me occupy my brain?

Burp!

There, you can rest your mind now.

Cheers

Cant make up my mind……

Again…..

It is a matter of personal freedom to dislike one or the other–or both. However, if one is going to make the argument that Blackmore’s Night is somehow illegitimate simply because “I don’t like it” and Jon Lord’s work is somehow valid because “I do like it,” then that person is profoundly short-sighted.

If the argument is that Lord’s work is somehow high-brow and sophisticated because it employs an orchestra while Blackmore’s is merely bourgeois and crude due to its hybrid nature, then that argument is a snobbish and cavalier one.

I understood STING did this purist Dark Ages thing a short while ago.
I ve yet not come to exploring it.

What do you think of that effort?

Not completely with you I m afraid.
As long RB NEVER really tried to do something along the lines of a PURIST thing we cant conclude yet if it would be criticised so harshly.

MY main criticism IS that he should have done just that instead of this mediocre blend.

Fernando

I think, trying to understand your post, that you mis interpreted T.

T is trying to hold a candle for Ritchie while you spit out the “so called” negative image of coldness and selfishness.

Maybe Ritchie has been or can be cold or a mistreater in person.
I dont know, NEVER met the man.

If he is a unfriendly man his talent and legacy is almost without question or stain.

One cannot say…..
Blackmore is to blame for this and that and USING that as an excuse for hiring a wrong alternative.

Sorry, I think I got confused because of 2 people with the name Scott.

SARABANDE might indeed be his best although I like Pictured Within very much too.

Wish they had the idea to film the Sarabande thing like they did with WINDOWS.

Anyone knows if WINDOWS is attainable on official DVD?
If not, Jon should take care of it and do it properly and also because of the re release3 of the album.

Jon is a meastro and a wonderful player,RB is not a maestro,even if he is the best guitarist imho…

ciao

In addition, the point that Lord’s music is somehow “genuine” and Blackmore’s is not is utter nonsense. It is just as easy to define Lord’s work and pretentious or somehow artifical because is it NOT “classic” music per se. It is “orchestral” music. Further, Lord’s work is a niche genre–his genius notwithstanding–whereas Blackmore’s reaches a much wider audience.

The double standard of praising Lord for his extra-Purple endeavors and villifying Blackmore for his remains.

It does not matter what Blackmore does outside of the rock realm. He will always be criticized for “abandoning” Deep Purple–and the Deep Purple fans.

Ritchie Blackmore could record a purist classical album along the lines of Sor, Torroba, Narváez–whomever–or a jazz record in the manner of Django Reinhardt–and he would still be accused of “wasting his talent”.

Admit it: In the minds of most people, Blackmore only can be accepted playing rock music. However, it is perfectly appropriate for Lord to compose orchestral music. It IS a double-standard.

I suppose you meant to say 6, 8 and 12?

I did not buy everything, I think, sorry Jon…..have to catch up …….for instance I still do not own FIRST OF THE BIG BANDS, SHAME ON ME!!!!!!, but……

Jon did this kinda thing since Concerto 69, which one could offer as a Jon Lord SOLO album.
There were albums after that…..a lot

Gemini Suite
Windows, wow anyone has seen all that footage on YOUTUBE, put on there by landinleonardo, which I thought was another nick for Dear George……..??????!!!!!
Sarabande

Before I Forget
Pictured Within
Beyond the notes

First of the big bands is not a solo effort?

Durham Concerto, was that an official release?
Boom Of The Tingling Strings, same question…..

I should know but I must admit I followed things after Beyond the notes through Internet, not buying anything.
I do have Durham live though as a copy….From the ON LINE broadcast.

The question is…..

Is there ONE Jon Lord direction?

Hi solo efforts are not all from the same mould, I mean classical stuff only.
He did the Blues format with The Hoochie Men as well…..

How can one get tired from variety while BN does album after album sort of the same?

I know certain people dont have much HEART for Classical stuff.

I still think its more a European blood thing.

@11
Thats right, never a word out of place.

@12
Thanks for speaking, not a word out of place either, I call this good company.

From memory, Ritchie originally announced BN as rennaisance music. But he mixed it heavily with pop, syrupy singing and ditto lyrics, drum machines and surrounded himself with lower standards of musicians. Of course, the man can still handle the guitar like no one else.

Furthermore, in the old days Ritchie used to gripe about Gillan’s voice or how he’d forget the lyrics and generally be very critical of everything. But the arguments Ritchie would use against Purple when he was in the band, can now be directed at his own band - and yet it seems he’s got things the way he wants them.

If he’s happy and content, no one should force him to change, but the combination of lower standards and a radically different musical style has caught a lot of people by surprise - and dressing everybody up in Harry Potter layoffs doesn’t help either. It all seems very far removed from reality.

On the other hand Jon Lord’s music is more readily percieved as genuine, credible and carefully executed with its creator never lowering his standards, remaining above cheap digs and generally sticking to the positive side of things.

The orchestral world is arguably as far removed from classic Purple as rennaisance music, but it does have a more ‘classy’ air about it (’scuse the pun), and Jon Lord performs and appears very much in the manner expected of such musical endeavours. No one is asked to dress up as Bach.

At the end of the day, both gentlemen are fulfilling lifelong ambitions and should be applauded for their determination and guts to leave the band and pursue personal ambitions. Whether you like their ‘new wifes’ isn’t so much their problem as it is yours.

Remarkable way of reasoning

I’ve noticed this too Scott. I think it’s largely because fans are used to Jon’s leanings. He’s been dabbling with classical/rock fusion and purely classical music since the late sixties and he’s built up a fan base around that work who are ready and waiting to accept new work from him in that vein. In that regard Jon is simply continuing a long tradition. Ritchie was critical of this work early on - and I don’t believe he’s ever gone on record as changing his views - and has always worked in the rock music genre. He abandoned this after the demise of Rainbow in the 90’s and has reinvented himself. There are many who are more than pleased with his new direction but many of his older fans feel left behind. If Ritchie had, like Jon, produced earlier work in this vein then there would already be a fan base to appreciate it. I don’t personally criticise Ritchie’s renaissance music…. it’s just not my cup of tea and I steer clear of it. I’m not always keen on Jon’s purely classical work either but I do enjoy the classical/rock fusions.

I m suppossedly one of the biggest Blackmore die hards but do I need to endorse everything?

And the argument is false.

Jon is really creating something new, RB just blends several styles in something I d not like to call original.

New Renaissance?
Is that a style? Or did you meant just Renaissance?

Or is there someone here who helps me stop dreaming and tell me Jon nicked his pieces from somewhere else just in a way Ritchie tends to do?

Very cleverly done, maybe……
Thats true.

Listening to Jon I can enjoy it on its own merites, listening to BN makes me sad, because I ll soon compare this to better efforts in the same raelm or even worse, his magical peaks in DP and Rainbow.

Wish Blackers, Lordy and Paicey went ON TOUR and made instrumental albums full of duelling and Paicey drumming all over the place……
We dont need singers who think they are better than the writers.

One thing I notice though, and I hope this isn’t off-putting, because I mean it only as an observation, not a criticism. I notice there is a big difference in the way DP fans relate to the music of Jon & Ritchie. Mostly we say positive things about Jons latest classical creation and praise him for stepping away from DP to chase his classical muse. Yet when Ritchie release a new renaissance CD or goes on tour, people are really ready to slag him off and complain that he’s wasting his talents and that he should get back to playing Rock and Roll and put the acoustic music aside.

Enjoy

Scott

Btw, I cant remember THS did mention it, I know it because I m subsribed to the Planet Rock newsletter-

Looks like a very good cover, Jon!!!!